Why are bombs OK, but guns bad?

[FlashDangerpants]

When terrorists kill and maim people with bombs, people don't blame the bombs, they blame the terrorists. But when the terrorists use guns, people blame the guns.

A very good point Bob. In fact it's always the people that are to blame for killing, never that which is used to do so. Why? Because one can always find something/anything to kill, if they really want to.

What is responsible for the horrible state of reasoning displayed in this forum?
If guns were blamed instead of terrorists, terrorists wouldn't use guns.
They want their slayings to be attributed to themselves, not to their tools, that's the point of doing terror.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Leo, you're not thinking of how it would go down, I mean sequentially. Very few would initially leave the cities in such a case, only ever knowing city life, not knowing how to deal with country living. Looting would ensue, and killing one another would surely be the norm. Eating one another??? Possibly in time, once all food reserves were used up. I'd leave right away, first thing! I'd have the jump, except of course for those already in the county. By the time more would follow in my foot steps, I'd be set up far far away from the beaten path. And when I say setup, I pity the fool, that gets too close to my digs, because I'll not be anyone's victim. Not that I'm perfect, but they'll play hell trying to take me down, it won't be an easy feat. Front door, back door, side doors, and making sure my cave looks inhospitable, booby traps, punji sticks, you name it. Make no mistake I was DOD trained to survive, and I paid attention! I was a flyer, trained to survive behind enemy lines, coupled with the PTSD of my childhood, I can seem like a shadow. Just call me ninja!

Of course I'd have no problems remaining thin in such a case, because my new job would be survival.

Wait, I thought you were locked away already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

There's only so much free country space available for such luxury that even for you to be so arrogant to think you suffer sufficiently to warrant staging another Waco-styled defense for fear of losing something is just plain sick. But don't worry, with modern technology, WHEN you eventually act out in extreme violence, we have drone technology now that can simply blow you up at a safe distance.

If you think you have earned some worthy skill to survive, then I challenge you to really get grass roots, toss all things away, including guns, and prove that you can truly survive solo in nature. A single man with a nuke is sufficiently powerful even without the skills you declare as qualifying virtues. So prove that you can fight a wild polar bear without anything, and maybe,...just maybe, we can all realize your sincere capacity to survive as some hero.

Scott you've just proven that your an idiot because you can't follow ones words, contextually. What the fuck are you smoking anyway? Cause you're like ALL over the page, fighting imaginary dragons that are actually windmills. What ever it is, stop, because it causes you to sound like a fucking moron!

What ever your pain that fuels your misplaced response, I'm sorry! But it's not here son. Seemingly only a mind fuck, you've misused it, believing somehow my initial words sparked it's need, they didn't. Don Quixote has nothing on you! But again I'm sorry for the pain that's caused you to run-a-muck, even though I had nothing to do with it! Take better aim, my boy, make sure someone deserves it before you fire your little guns!

FACT: the person that's in control of the weapon, is the reason why the weapon murders.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Too much bad acid. It starts to take its toll as the neurons wither on the vine.

I thought that was Timothy Leary!

Q: Is there such a thing as 'bad acid"?

[Obvious Leo]

Q: Is there such a thing as 'bad acid"?

Fuckin' oath there is. All the lysergides are chemically unstable at room temperature and thus "street" acid has always had to be laced with various chemicals to stabilise it. All manner of different shit has been used by back-shed chemists to serve this purpose and none of it is good for you, especially strychnine, the stabiliser of choice back in the heady days of the sixties and seventies. Moderate usage during this period is unlikely to have long-term adverse effects for somebody who is psychologically well-adjusted, but prolonged and excessive use by the emotionally fragile will induce brain rot. (not a technical term, by the way).

[Obvious Leo]

What is responsible for the horrible state of reasoning displayed in this forum?

Bad acid.

[Scott Mayers]

FACT: the person that's in control of the weapon, is the reason why the weapon murders.

You're just pushing back to some prior cause that's irrelevant to the issue. It's just a distraction or Red Herring argument. You could also push back your own argument and say that guns don't create themselves, people do. And so if people are the cause of murder, the people who create the weapons to which other people use are also guilty, not the weapons themselves!

[Hobbes' Choice]

FACT: the person that's in control of the weapon, is the reason why the weapon murders.

You're just pushing back to some prior cause that's irrelevant to the issue. It's just a distraction or Red Herring argument. You could also push back your own argument and say that guns don't create themselves, people do. And so if people are the cause of murder, the people who create the weapons to which other people use are also guilty, not the weapons themselves!

Yes, and either God or the Big Bang is the cause of mass killings.

But the fact is that if they had been forced to use a kitchen knife because they could not get hold of a gun, then things would be different. Getting up close and personal is not so easily done.

[FlashDangerpants]

FACT: the person that's in control of the weapon, is the reason why the weapon murders.

MORE FACT: There is a mother that is responsible for the person that is in control of the weapon that does the killing.
And her mum is to blame too.
Welcome to the exciting world of Antenatalism.

[Obvious Leo]

MORE FACT: There is a mother that is responsible for the person that is in control of the weapon that does the killing.
And her mum is to blame too.

Yes. It all started to go pear-shaped once we climbed out of the trees. The arboreal ape has no need of such vanities as firearms because he just chucks his turds at his enemies as they pass below. This is probably a policy worth revisiting.

[Hobbes' Choice]

MORE FACT: There is a mother that is responsible for the person that is in control of the weapon that does the killing.
And her mum is to blame too.

Yes. It all started to go pear-shaped once we climbed out of the trees. The arboreal ape has no need of such vanities as firearms because he just chucks his turds at his enemies as they pass below. This is probably a policy worth revisiting.

Being a fat kid, I was never that good at climbing trees, but felt a great sense of achievement when I did so.

Walking on the ground is fine. Really, it's planting that seed in the ground that caused all the problems. A plant has to be protected, fenced off, kept from gatherers and browsers. Land has to then be owned, and a hierarchy to specialise; soldiers, sowers and reapers; collectors and storers. And a big fat King to sit on all the cabbages (literally and metaphorically).
All of a sudden Hunters and Gatherers face no-go areas and are forced to join or start the same process; nations; wars; racism; bigotry; holocaust.
You know the story.

[Obvious Leo]

You know the story.

I know it well. And yet it must have seemed like such a good idea at the time. Mind you, if we hadn't invented agriculture then we would never have invented reality TV and we would have been condemned to a Trumpless world. A minefield of comedic opportunity lost to posterity.

[Obvious Leo]

All of a sudden Hunters and Gatherers face no-go areas and are forced to join or start the same process; nations; wars; racism; bigotry; holocaust.

You forgot religion. None of the above would have been possible without a fictitious cause to die for.

[Hobbes' Choice]

You know the story.

I know it well. And yet it must have seemed like such a good idea at the time. Mind you, if we hadn't invented agriculture then we would never have invented reality TV and we would have been condemned to a Trumpless world. A minefield of comedic opportunity lost to posterity.

And had we not stopped being hunter/gatherers, we'd never be able to make this TV program.
http://www.channel5.com/show/10000-bc-two-tribes

[Hobbes' Choice]

All of a sudden Hunters and Gatherers face no-go areas and are forced to join or start the same process; nations; wars; racism; bigotry; holocaust.

You forgot religion. None of the above would have been possible without a fictitious cause to die for.

True.
I thought "bigotry, and wars": pretty much sums up religion.

[FlashDangerpants]

I thought "bigotry, and wars": pretty much sums up religion.

Shame on you.
It's Bigotry, wars and hats. There's always a Trinity.