The Judicial Concepts of Entering a Plea and Making Bail Are Improper

[BigWhit]

And how does one come to that conclusion?

[bobevenson]

And how does one come to that conclusion?

I guess I'll settle for the following line from the United States Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

[Hobbes' Choice]

And how does one come to that conclusion?

I guess I'll settle for the following line from the United States Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."[size]

That's an unfounded assumption, and far from self-evident. And not even fucking listened to by the wankers that signed it who all owned slaves.
So fuck of back to the US!

[bobevenson]

And how does one come to that conclusion?

I guess I'll settle for the following line from the United States Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

That's an unfounded assumption, and far from self-evident. And not even fucking listened to by the wankers that signed it who all owned slaves.
So fuck of back to the US!

Let's see, you're a perfect asshole, and if you represent the rest of England, they replicate your perfection.

[Obvious Leo]

And how does one come to that conclusion?

I guess I'll settle for the following line from the United States Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."[size]

That's an unfounded assumption, and far from self-evident. And not even fucking listened to by the wankers that signed it who all owned slaves.
So fuck of back to the US!

They didn't mean ALL men are created equal. They meant that all aristocratic men of property were created equal, not ordinary folks, or women, or niggers, kikes , wops, dagos, polacks, eyeties, slopeheads, ragheads, wetbacks, indians, chinks etc., Nobody ever suggested that they were created equal.

[BigWhit]

Now, now, kids.

If the right to liberty in unalienable then how do you justify incarceration at all?

[Arising_uk]

I'm talking about people eligible for bail. That being said, you simply cannot be as stupid as you appear, but I just can't come up with another explanation!

That's because you are hard of thought bobby. What I'm having trouble with is what you are describing as I have no cultural reference for what you describe as I think in 'socialist' UK those eligible for bail get bail as we have various types of bail. Are you saying in your capitalist heaven its only cash for freedom?

[bobevenson]

Wait a minute, none of you idiots look at the big picture, you just try to nitpick basic truths, or in the case of that Australian, throw your boomerang around and hope it hits something that makes more sense than he does!

[BigWhit]

It's called philosophy, bob.

[Arising_uk]

It's called philosophy, bob.

God bless the Navy.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I guess I'll settle for the following line from the United States Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."[size]

That's an unfounded assumption, and far from self-evident. And not even fucking listened to by the wankers that signed it who all owned slaves.
So fuck of back to the US!

They didn't mean ALL men are created equal. They meant that all aristocratic men of property were created equal, not ordinary folks, or women, or niggers, kikes , wops, dagos, polacks, eyeties, slopeheads, ragheads, wetbacks, indians, chinks etc., Nobody ever suggested that they were created equal.

It's shameful how racism has been on the increase since the progress made in the 1960s. When most of the rest of the Western World seemed to be going in a progressive direction.

[bobevenson]

Also, it's shameful how stupidity seems to be increasing in this forum since you joined.

[BigWhit]

What's a fucking shame is an OP posting in a philosophy forum who won't answer philosophical questions about his idea and prefers to sling ad hominims around.

It seems like I can find relatively mature and thoughtful discussions in other sections. What about politics turns people into pissheads?

[bobevenson]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[Obvious Leo]

What about politics turns people into pissheads?

So does philosophy, mate. It's an occupational hazard.