~ The Case For Socialism ~

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:06 pm

bobevenson wrote:
Obvious Leo wrote:As a matter of fact this is a widely held view amongst many of the world's leading economists who correctly predicted the GFC of 2008 as a direct consequence of it. Furthermore since the underlying Ponzi mechanism has not been dealt with by any of the global regulatory authorities since this event these same economists are of the view that exactly the same thing will happen again, except next time it'll be even worse. Dig a hole in your backyard and fill it up with cans of beans, Bob, because the shit's about to hit the fan.
I'm just trying to figure out if there's anything at all in your above comment that's not pure, unadulterated bullshit.
Says the man, squinting!

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:10 pm

bobevenson wrote:Please, Wiltrack, quit acting like you're on some kind of pedestal!
An author of a thread does have some degree of latitude, you don't like it, move along, no one's forcing you to be here. His thread thus his pedestal/soapbox/pulpit/etc.

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by bobevenson » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:29 pm

Seven straight posts on this stupid subject??? You make Wiltrack look smart!!!

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:09 pm

bobevenson wrote:Seven straight posts on this stupid subject??? You make Wiltrack look smart!!!
Haven't been here for a while, so you are far too stupid to know what you're talking about, some things shall never change!

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:29 pm

SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Gore Vidal once said that the US economy was based in free enterprise for the poor and socialism for the rich.

Right now the rich receive trillions in corporate handouts; bailouts and tax breaks. The theory is that wealth will trickle down. This is so obviously bullshit. The poor just get pissed on, if they are lucky, whilst the rich hold on to the wealth and ferret it away in off-shore accounts.

It would be a fare better system to just give all the subsidies to the poor. The poor do not tend to save. They spend. They spend at shops run by people who buy shit from other people and the wealth bubbles-up enriching the entire economy.

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:30 pm

bobevenson wrote:
Obvious Leo wrote:As a matter of fact this is a widely held view amongst many of the world's leading economists who correctly predicted the GFC of 2008 as a direct consequence of it. Furthermore since the underlying Ponzi mechanism has not been dealt with by any of the global regulatory authorities since this event these same economists are of the view that exactly the same thing will happen again, except next time it'll be even worse. Dig a hole in your backyard and fill it up with cans of beans, Bob, because the shit's about to hit the fan.
I'm just trying to figure out if there's anything at all in your above comment that's not pure, unadulterated bullshit.
So that you might see bullshit you would have to remove the same from your ears, eyes and mouth.

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:49 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Gore Vidal once said that the US economy was based in free enterprise for the poor and socialism for the rich.

Right now the rich receive trillions in corporate handouts; bailouts and tax breaks. The theory is that wealth will trickle down. This is so obviously bullshit. The poor just get pissed on, if they are lucky, whilst the rich hold on to the wealth and ferret it away in off-shore accounts.

It would be a fare better system to just give all the subsidies to the poor. The poor do not tend to save. They spend. They spend at shops run by people who buy shit from other people and the wealth bubbles-up enriching the entire economy.

What is not to like?
Good Job, Kudos!
Gosh, we have something in common.
Really now, you've known that from the beginning, though I'm sure you hate to admit it and I'm surprised that you just did. ;)

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by Obvious Leo » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:53 pm

SpheresOfBalance wrote:Ponzi, OK! I was thinking more of a pyramid scheme; Simpatico!
The terms are perfectly synonymous, SOB. Ponzi schemes are pyramid schemes and can only end in riches for the few and tears for the many.

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:10 pm

Obvious Leo wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Ponzi, OK! I was thinking more of a pyramid scheme; Simpatico!
The terms are perfectly synonymous, SOB. Ponzi schemes are pyramid schemes and can only end in riches for the few and tears for the many.
Simpatico: 2. of similar mind or temperament; compatible.

I was speaking of you and I, on this particular topic. You Ponzi; Me pyramid!

What, do I make you nervous now, thinking I'm always on the attack? Nope, not at all!

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by bobevenson » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:21 pm

Obvious Leo wrote: Ponzi schemes are pyramid schemes.
You obviously know nothing about either.

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by Obvious Leo » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:36 pm

SpheresOfBalance wrote:What, do I make you nervous now,
You don't make me nervous, SOB. I've been around a long time and your type are ten a penny.

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Post by Arising_uk » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:47 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote:...
And so you know that surely you would. Common for one that totes a shotgun; the real reason it's carried.

Me, me, me, cries the guy with a shotgun!
Er! Says the guy with a mini-gun on his quad?

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by Arising_uk » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:48 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.PLEASE extend the same amount of respect and admiration to each other as you normally extend to me.
They are.

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Post by Arising_uk » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:51 am

henry quirk wrote:...

You really wanna end scarcity?

Build atomic powerplants and make nano-fabrication a reality.

Cheap, plentiful power and 'building' food addresses the problem without catering to parasites or punishing the productive.
Surely there would be no parasites in a world without scarcity? But otherwise I agree with you 100% and the later invention would probably usher in a socialist paradise. :D

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Re: ~ The Case For Socialism ~

Post by Bill Wiltrack » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:10 pm

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I think the recent advances in technology moves the socialistic ideology forward by leaps & bounds.


The most disruptive technology in the world now - by far, is the disruptive technology associated with social media; Facebook, twitter, & ALL the other social networks and communities that exist today thanks to advances in social media through advances in technology.






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