Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:10 pm
Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:44 pm
This is one of your projections, Age.
Yes it is. But a 'projection' is NOT necessarily a Wrong thing to do...blah, blah, blah...
See?
Why the question mark now? What are you asking here?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
I've told you that you make projections.
I know you have told me this. You have told me this a few times already. But so what?
I have informed you that making projections is not necessarily a wrong thing to do.
Making projections is also not necessarily a bad thing at all to do, as making projections does not necessarily have anything to do with what "one's" 'self' does.
By the way, you saying, "This is one of your projections", to another, is a 'projection', itself. Was this a bad or wrong thing for you to do here?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
You insist that I point them out, as if they do not exist.
Where and when have I ever insisted such a thing?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
Then when I do, you make excuses and say "but, but, but...".
What are you on about here?
How one views 'projections', or not, like EVERY other word is all dependent upon the observer.
Do you see 'making projections' as being something wrong or bad?
If yes, then WHY?
Also, can one 'make projections' without that projection being something that one, them self, does? Or, is this NOT possible to you?
If you want to make the claim that 'making projections' is what the one making the projection does them self, then you have to PROVE this. So, if you want to claim that I am 'making projections', then you will HAVE TO PROVE that I do that EXACT SAME thing "myself".
I was pointing out that "another";
is very ashamed and afraid of being so lack of ability to back up and support THEIR CLAIMS, and,
that they have overcompensated this inferiority with an attempt to come across as superior.
Now, if you want to make the projection and claim that 'I', "myself", do this as well, then you will HAVE TO PROVE that 'I' do this. Otherwise, what you are projecting, saying, and claiming here is just your own view and/or belief, which is not necessarily based on ANY supporting evidence and/or proof AT ALL.
So, if you want to PROVE that I also do this, then you will have to CHALLENGE EVERY thing I say, and claim. See, I can back up and support EVERY thing I say and claim, and the only way you can DISPROVE this is by CHALLENGING me, which I MOST WELCOME and, literally, LOOK FORWARD TO.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
A projection is you projecting your ideas about how someone else is FEELING, onto them.
Yes. And if I am WRONG, then they can just CORRECT me.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
You do not know, yet you may base much of your argument on it.
AND, I also MAY KNOW. Or, do you really believe that you KNOW that I do not know?
As I also MAY base much of my, alleged, "argument" on 'it' I MAY also NOT.
Also, is what you just said here 'a projection'? (After all you did say,
"You do not know").
If no, then WHY NOT?
Is it possible I COULD KNOW?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
You've done it to me many times, and you've been wrong.
So what?
i have been WRONG MANY, MANY times in my life. And, i do NOT think that i will NEVER be WRONG ever again.
Also, do NOT forget that you have made many ASSUMPTIONS about what I have actually MEANT and you have been WRONG many times as well. Or, have you forgotten this already?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
If someone wants to continue to engage with you, they have to explain how much you are projecting...
NO they do NOT. They could just tell 'me' and inform "others" HOW and WHY 'I am WRONG', and then proceed.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
which you deny and argue with.
You speak here as though you are NEVER wrong, and whatever you say should NEVER be 'denied' nor 'argued' against.
Could what you say be WRONG, and thus should be 'denied' and 'argued' against, or do you prefer NO one does this when engaging with you?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
It ends up being a convoluted swamp, too false and pointless and time-consuming to wade through, you see?
For example, just EXACTLY LIKE what is happening here now?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
Your supposed end-all answers/ideas/claims are as fanciful and personal as your projections.
If my answers/ideas/claims are NOT end-all answers/ideas/claims, then just point this out, by EXPLAINING HOW and WHY they are NOT end-all answers, ideas, and/or claims.
I KNOW I can back up and support ALL of my, so called, "end-all answers/ideas/claims". This is because I have ALREADY obtained the actual EVIDENCE and PROOF that can, will, and does back up and support them ALL.
If ANY one thinks or believes that this is NOT possible, then just CHALLENGE me on this.
I have absolutely NOTHING to fear NOR be scared of here.
By the way, instead of just using emotive words like "fanciful", and words like "your projections", as though you have some actual EVIDENCE and PROOF of them, how about you PROVIDE some ACTUAL PROOF?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
We ALL have our own sight and ideas.
Just to be absolutely correct here SOME have their own sight and ideas. But who and/or what YOU view 'we' here is, is probably VERY DIFFERENT to what I view, and SEE, the 'we' is.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
We may point out what and how someone else is doing or saying something... but any projections about how they feel or who they are is not true or complete, because we all can be many things.
HOW do you KNOW that it is "not true" or "complete"?
Do you KNOW things that "others" do not?
How do you KNOW that I do NOT KNOW, EXACTLY, who and what 'you', human beings, are, individually AND collectively?
By the way, EXPLAIN, exactly, HOW 'you', human beings, can be MANY things.
What else can 'you' be, other than a 'human being', and HOW, exactly, can 'you' be those things?
ONCE MORE, I suggest that if ANY one wants to make a claim, then it is better for them if they can back up and support their claim BEFORE they make the claim, in the first place.