Dualism of particle.

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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by chaz wyman » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:38 pm

There is no dualism particle. Not only is that a contradiction, it is false.

There is is such a thing as a dualism gene. It sits next to the god-gene, and is switched on by ridiculous Hollywood films about 'mind swaps, or body swaps'.

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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:13 pm

Maybe we can now look at the key problem of the physics - gravity quantization.
The fundamental problems of such quantization follow from two assumptions:
- Infinitely fine structure of continuum/vacuum (need of renormalization)
- The absence of a repulsive gravitational force (impossibility of renormalization)
Both of these assumptions brought GTR.
It's amazing how mainstream physicists are unwilling to learn from the problem of the so-called “ultraviolet catastrophe”, which was solved by the transition from the continual to the discrete structure of the black body radiation.
The idea of spontaneous creation of virtual particles (heat waving of physical space) in case of Einstein’s gravity is associated with the generation of non-zero gravitational field. Note that in the case of the electrostatic potential any field immediately does not arise. Electron and positron together cancel it out ...
The conclusion seems to be quite simple: if the quantization of gravity is not established on the discrete structure vacuum and gravitational repulsion possibility, we will quantize it for next eighty years: (
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:54 pm

In another thread I have written: Mathematics is a physics of ideas and physics is mathematics of matter. Kurt Goedel (: my native :) had cursed mathematics by his laws, so that if the system is consistent then can not be comprehensive. It is interesting to transfer his thinking into the physics. Our physical experience, expressed by the laws of physics, by the causality, can not describe reality in all its completeness. We are encapsulated in certain higher system, in the "future" that can not be described, understand, by our perceiving, by our experience of causality. The "future" we can reach/meat at both ends of limited time axis (at the beginning and at the presence). The ending in the unknown, in the moment of "now", is not sharp. Just "drying", last (Planck's) layer of time (which quantum mechanics tries to describe) is already showing/bears a signs of uncertainty. Not only matter (Universe is growing), but, it seems, even the "structures", information, ideas, "chitta" flows from the "outside", from the "future" into our Universe thru this layer (time of "now"). The future thus appears (let me to repeat) as Plato's world of ideas, and the empire of the Hegelian absolute knowledge, imaginary world, the empire of the Spirit / of God. BTW, Where eg pythagorean theorem (math) appeared from? From nothing? Of course no, it must come from the Future...
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:46 pm

Does "God" want us to understand physics?
What does "God" want from us actually? Science? Art? Beauty? Keeping the life?
Is "God" looking for something the special?
Are we his probe into matter? Do we give him/her information about "real" world?
Does "God" grow?

PS: I'm not a religious but I feel strong complexity and (outer) support to the life and I believe in the purpose of Universe :)

Btw, Hardly to believe that information saved in DNA itself is able to describe needed development of complicated live creatures - consider please individual but very synchronized process of development of billions of live cells. Perhaps DNA is only certain id/key addressing particular “idea/model/plan” of creature in the Future (in the “world of Ideas”), the key that keep physical integration of particular creature...
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by socratus » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:54 am

Cerveny wrote:Does "God" want us to understand physics?
What does "God" want from us actually? Science? Art? Beauty? Keeping the life?
Is "God" looking for something the special?
Are we his probe into matter?
Does "God" grow?

PS: I'm not a religious but I feel strong complexity and (outer) support to the life and I believe in the purpose of Universe :)
To solve the problem of dualism is equal to solve the problem of idealism.
Dualism = Idealism.
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by socratus » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:16 pm

How can intelligence be physical ? How can meaning be physical ?
How can thinking be physical ? How can knowing be physical ?
How can life or consciousness or free will be physical ?

In the name of reason and common sense:
How can dualism be equal to idealism ?
=.
To solve the problem of dualism of particle in physics is
equal to solve the problem of idealism in philosophy.
Dualism = Idealism.
Why?
Because in physics we have two ( 2) conceptions of impulse:
a) Newtonian/ Classical physics explains conceptions of impulse
as an outside effect.
b) Quantum physics explains conceptions of impulse as
an inside – inner effect.
==.
What it means ? My explanation.

According to Quantum theory the elementary particle quantum
of light can be in three ( 3) states:

a) Quantum of light can be in potential state,
then its inner impulse and speed is zero: h=0, c=0.

b) Quantum of light can be in the state of constant and straight
motion ( in vacuum) then its inner impulse according to Planck
is h=E/t and according to Einstein it is h=kb.
Einstein proved that h= E/t = kb =1
Using this impulse quantum of light moves in a straight line
with constant speed c = 299,792,458 m/sec = 1.
We call such quantum of light - ‘photon’.
From Earth – gravity point of view this speed is maximally.
From Vacuum point of view this speed is minimally.
In this movement quantum of light behave as a corpuscular.

c) According to Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck quantum of light
can rotate around its axis by its inner impulse h* = h / 2pi.
In such movement quantum of light has charge and produce
electric waves ( waves property of particle).
We call such quantum of light - ‘ electron’ . The speed of rotating
electron is faster than when it moves in a straight line : c>1.
The speed of rotating electron we call ‘frequency’ ( f ).
Now is possible ‘visual’ to understand the formula of electron’s
energy: E=h*f.
==.
Quantum of light can be in three ( 3) states:
a) h=0 (potential state)
b) h=1 ( be as a photon in a straight constant movement)
c) h* = h/ 2pi ( be as an electron – rotates around its own axis)

The reason of these different kind of motions is its inner impulses. (!)
What this mean?
It means that quantum of light has free will to choice in which state to be.
To have possibility to choice needs some kind of consciousness.
This consciousness cannot be statically.
This consciousness can develop.
The development of consciousness goes, as ancient Indian Veda says,
“ from vague wish up to a clear thought ”
It means that quantum of light not only object but subject too and
therefore I wrote: Dualism = Idealism.
=.
P.S.
Of course, when we think about behavior of quantum of light we need
to take in attention its reference frame – Infinite Vacuum: T= 0K.
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Best wishes.
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:04 pm

There is another Idea: No photons exist in fact. There is only electromagnetic waving. If energy of this waving exceeds certain level it can cause some defect (tearing appropriate bindings) of regular, elastic structure of vacuum or of matter (the matter is a dirty vacuum). If such event occurs in “neutral” environment (for example in vacuum) two opposite compensating defects must be created… Because of such event occurs in specific (mostly already strained) place we suppose that it was caused by a local “particle” – by a "photon"….
Photon thus is not a particle/matter but it is an event :(
The lasting critical problem of present and yet of historical physics is the Einstein's concept of (Minkovski) space-time. It supposes homogenous structure of “space-time” during full time range. (I omit here obscure “expansion” and determinism).

But there are qualitative (phase) differences along the time axis. Very simply saying: The history is a “solid”, the future is a “gas” and the presence is “liquid” (“live” just crystallizing layer). As the space can be elastically deformed (we can measure and express it as some fields) the “time” dimension of Universe can be elastically deformed, strained as well. In certain place thus the time can be in advance in comparison with the time of another place. Time waves thus can travel on the space (on history surface). I personally believe the brain is able to read, perhaps even create (use) these waves for subliminal communication, universal for all live creatures. The feeling of the life is just the consciousness of this possibility... If the Great Creator “lives” in the opposite part (beyond the presence, in the “future”) he can “work”, play with these waves as well :)
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by socratus » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:12 pm

socratus wrote:How can intelligence be physical ? How can meaning be physical ?
How can thinking be physical ? How can knowing be physical ?
How can life or consciousness or free will be physical ?

In the name of reason and common sense:
How can dualism be equal to idealism ?
=.
To solve the problem of dualism of particle in physics is
equal to solve the problem of idealism in philosophy.
Dualism = Idealism.
Why?
Because in physics we have two ( 2) conceptions of impulse:
a) Newtonian/ Classical physics explains conceptions of impulse
as an outside effect.
b) Quantum physics explains conceptions of impulse as
an inside – inner effect.
==.
What it means ? My explanation.

According to Quantum theory the elementary particle quantum
of light can be in three ( 3) states:

a) Quantum of light can be in potential state,
then its inner impulse and speed is zero: h=0, c=0.

b) Quantum of light can be in the state of constant and straight
motion ( in vacuum) then its inner impulse according to Planck
is h=E/t and according to Einstein it is h=kb.
Einstein proved that h= E/t = kb =1
Using this impulse quantum of light moves in a straight line
with constant speed c = 299,792,458 m/sec = 1.
We call such quantum of light - ‘photon’.
From Earth – gravity point of view this speed is maximally.
From Vacuum point of view this speed is minimally.
In this movement quantum of light behave as a corpuscular.

c) According to Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck quantum of light
can rotate around its axis by its inner impulse h* = h / 2pi.
In such movement quantum of light has charge and produce
electric waves ( waves property of particle).
We call such quantum of light - ‘ electron’ . The speed of rotating
electron is faster than when it moves in a straight line : c>1.
The speed of rotating electron we call ‘frequency’ ( f ).
Now is possible ‘visual’ to understand the formula of electron’s
energy: E=h*f.
==.
Quantum of light can be in three ( 3) states:
a) h=0 (potential state)
b) h=1 ( be as a photon in a straight constant movement)
c) h* = h/ 2pi ( be as an electron – rotates around its own axis)

The reason of these different kind of motions is its inner impulses. (!)
What this mean?
It means that quantum of light has free will to choice in which state to be.
To have possibility to choice needs some kind of consciousness.
This consciousness cannot be statically.
This consciousness can develop.
The development of consciousness goes, as ancient Indian Veda says,
“ from vague wish up to a clear thought ”
It means that quantum of light not only object but subject too and
therefore I wrote: Dualism = Idealism.
=.
P.S.
Of course, when we think about behavior of quantum of light we need
to take in attention its reference frame – Infinite Vacuum: T= 0K.
====.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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Question:
What quality of vacuum makes it the ideal media
for communication of information, such as the
information to confirm or deny Zohar's null hypothesis?
Answer:
The behavior of Quantum of light in the Vacuum
will tell you all information about God and Soul and Existance.

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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:31 pm

The experience of God can not be communicated. It can be only surmised from the context of phenomena, from sophisticated causal mosaic or extrasensory seen by the brain trained to touch / to hear the nature :)
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:34 pm

As for quantization: Every sufficiently long evolution of consistent system gradually converges at a constant or periodic state. (Let us recall an incredibly overwhelming number of elementary events that may happen during one second - the Planck time / event is about 10 ^ -44 s in this context). Spectral analysis of periodic phenomena produces discrete values, so the lasting systems have a quantization encoded in its essence. Each real periodic plot is somehow maintained / supported from the "outside". Similarly, the evolution / being of the Universe (which is full of periodical phenomena – el.mag. waving, motion of electrons in atoms … or even quantum waving *) must be (as a real process) somehow subsidized / supported from the outside, from the "future". Let us return now to the quantization. Consider for example flute (analogy to quantum system): The manufacturer certainly does not need to solve the Stokes – Navier or Bernouli equations or air composition - he is only interesting in the stable (discrete) states generated by the constant flow of air. QM similarly mostly tries to find stationary states generated by certain medium flowing from the "future", without any particular interest about mentioned medium. Some necessary properties (analogical to air press and density - in case of flute) are given by physical constants (h, c...).

* By the way, I can see a strong analogy between electromagnetic waving - "photons" and the inertial motion. So I believe that inertial motion (and el.mag. waving) is a result of certain “support”, of a permanent addition (replication), “snowing” of matter at the Universe surface (the presence) from the "future".
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:08 pm

Why we cannot see the future? Here are some possibilities:
1) The light (generally information) cannot be spread to the all direction of space-time by the same way? In this case the time-space cannot be homogenous but it must have been somehow physically strongly polarized!!
2) Time axis does not exist? Whole physics is full of dependences on the time derivation thus on the difference between two time “snapshots” of reality. Certain time layers must then be real.
3) The future does not exist yet or it exists in another form/phase. If the future already had existed then the all reality must have been already (in advance) prepared and Universe must have been fully determined. Such world (where for example every decays of neutron is planned, already prepared) loses the sense!!
Why the history is solid?
It seems being rather strange (because of the common feeling of the motion), but we do not live in the history but in the uncertain, not finally fixed presence, in fact. History is a fixed base, pattern for the coming things and events. Its regular fixed structure is a guarantee of the causality, of physical laws and of constants conservation. If the History is not solid then the space and things cannot keep together.

As we accept the growth of the known Universe (without changing of Planck cells, of space properties) the space and matter (corrupt space) must come from the outside, from the “Future” only. Stem cells of the vacuum/physical space are coming from the "Future" and they are (slightly accidentally) glued at the historical "pattern".

It is necessary to use the logic for studying of the Universe structure and just the logic is able to lead out us from the hopeless status of present mainstream physics. The similar logic brings the models as (simply expressed): History is solid, Future is some "gas" and the presence is just solidifying/freezing/crystallizing" fluid :)

And this is the reason why we can not travel in time - history is solid, and the future does not exist yet :(
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Arising_uk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:13 am

Cerveny wrote:...
The similar logic brings the models as (simply expressed): History is solid, Future is some "gas" and the presence is solidifying/freezing/crystallizing" fluid :)
Or its a 3-D cellular automata of some kind with spacetime as the pattern produced by its running, a la Conways Game of Life.

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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:27 am

Regarding temperature: Yes, there is a universal space temperature. It is a temperature that causes decay of elementary particles. It is the temperature at which the half-life values of elementary particles are dependent on. Let us say neutrons: If temperature of space is equal to zero, they become stable, Universe would have had nowhere to grow, and it would have been done. Temperature "of Universe," as we see it (say, 4 Kelvin degrees) is just the current space / vacuum radiation... Just the fall of meta-temperature probably rise the beginning and condensation of Universe.

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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:12 pm

Two doubts have led me to think about the physics by different way. Firstly, it is an extreme distrust of all singularities and infinities – they can not be physically "implemented". Secondly, it is the mechanism of creation of particles and antiparticles from "nothing". These two doubts led me to naive model (http://cerveny.in/pic/hole.jpg). Later I realized that the situation is much more complex and also takes place in 4-d scene. Furthermore, I realized that the universe can not be exactly pre-determined (it would not make sense) and it must (little haphazardly) grow. If I further add a phenomenon of the spin I get picture of "empty" space as growing crystal where elementary particles are complex structural defects (some screw dislocations in 4-d) and appropriate antiparticles are their complementary defects. In any case, I feel black holes more like a "white" holes (*) and I expect different gravitational properties of antimatter, so that some analogy of Dirac’s procedure "calculates” protons/antiprotons :)

(*) see pls also: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27446&start=15#p427338
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Re: Dualism of particle.

Post by Cerveny » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:37 am

Cerveny wrote:Dualism of elementary particle follows from properties of the vacuum (of physical space)
Particular/discrete/local properties are related with regular/discrete structure of the vacuum/aether and wave (field) properties are related with elastic properties of bindings/couplings between space elements. Elementary particles are structural defects in regular structure of physical empty space=vacuum=aether...
http://www.mathem.pub.ro/proc/bsgp-10/0KOSTRO.PDF:
I(n) one of these papers Einstein therefore wrote:
,,Physical space and ether are only different terms for the same thing; fields are
physical states of space.
”[14]
As we can see, at that time, Einstein considered the gravitational and elektromagnetic fields as elastically strained states of the physical space i.e. of the new ether. :)
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