Is God against modern conveniences?

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Is God against modern conveniences?

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Is God against modern conveniences? Does God expect us to live a simple life without comforts and luxuries? Can we not be spiritual and lead comfortable lives too?

Swami Replied: Your own Science clearly proves that every comfort developed by science and technology is towards harming the health of human beings and also finally leading to disturbance in the ecological balance leading to natural calamities that destroy the world. The comfort provided by God through nature is always proved to be constructive to the welfare of humanity. All the synthetic comforts developed by the human beings competing with the natural comforts given by God are proved to be worst by the environmental science itself. The scientific analysis of this topic with the help of environmental science is necessary than hasty emotional conclusions.

This nature is the creation of God and hence, all the natural amenities are the comforts created by God only. The health and longevity of our ancestors compared to health and longevity of the present human beings is a practical proof that can never be denied by anybody. The comforts reduced the power of resistance in the body. I do not say that ancient science is greater than the modern science. I too agree that the modern science is far sharp than the ancient science. You have increased the sharpness of the knife but its misuse can end your life whereas the ancient knife without sharp edge may not end your life even in such case of misuse. Sometimes, over intelligence is harmful.
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Yes, we must stop using the convenience of online forums to spread our ideas. I know a good stationer's...
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It's about a 45 minute walk from the Ashram, not far from Jalna road.
Of course we wouldn't use a car to get there, but I am sure there are devotees who would gladly take the walk.
And then instead of posts, we have letters going out to the world.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:33 am Yes, we must stop using the convenience of online forums to spread our ideas. I know a good stationer's...
Jyoti books stationery
It's about a 45 minute walk from the Ashram, not far from Jalna road.
Of course we wouldn't use a car to get there, but I am sure there are devotees who would gladly take the walk.
And then instead of posts, we have letters going out to the world.
The development of any limb of a human being is desirable as it grows from the childhood onwards. But, the growth of any limb should be within the proper limits. The growth of the finger should not be equal to the growth of the leg. Similarly, the development of science should not cross the proper limits so that there is no harm to the global environment and the health of humanity. In ancient India, sages also developed sciences. But, the sages were strong devotees of God and hence, the development of the research in science and technology did not cross the limits of danger by the grace of God.

For example, let us take the ancient system of herbal medicines (Ayurveda). All these medicines were effective in controlling the corresponding diseases. At the same time, there was no side reaction to lead to another disease and no medicine damaged the tissue cells. The medicines were active in developing the resistance of the body to disease. Almost, no medicine was directly involved in attacking the disease. Today, the modern medicines are directly involved in attacking the disease and as a result, the resistance of the body decreases and the tissue cells get damaged by the negative effects of the medicines. What is the reason for this difference? The research in medical science in ancient India was under the supervision of God so that unwarranted sides were blocked.

Today, the scientists develop the research in very fast way without the supervision of God. The scientists neglect God and slowly become the atheists, who negate God. Negligence in course of time becomes negation. Therefore, the development of science in the directions of safety of the humanity is very important. My criticism, about the dangerous directions of the growth of science and technology, should not lead to the conclusion that I am against the development of science and technology. I am a scientist, who worked in the Institution of Technology throughout My life period.
In fact, the knowledge of science was given by God (Vedaah shaastraani vijnanam etat sravam janaardanaat…).

The knowledge of science and technology was used in ancient India for earning livelihood in various professions. The growth of science was limited so that the natural balance was not disturbed. For example, there were no synthetic chemical fertilizers. Only natural fertilizers like cow dung, etc. were used. The knowledge that the crop requires fertilizer was known, but, too much research leading to the manufacture of chemicals acting as fertilizers was not there. There was no danger to health due to natural fertilizers. But, there is a lot of danger to health due to the toxins entering the body from the present fertilizers. Therefore, in those days, research in science never developed in the harmful direction due to the grace of God. Today, a scientist does not like the name of God thinking that God is unaware of science! When you neglect God, He keeps silent about the research in science without any interference. As a result, science developed in all the ways without any supernatural control so that the ecological balance is disturbed.

The development of industries involving various applications of energy lead to the global warming. Scientists predict the global destruction, if the warming results in the increase of two degrees more. The applications of energy and the development of scientific research in various directions resulted in the discovery of several artificial amenities.

These amenities have been stamped with the higher status of life. To maintain these amenities, more and more money is needed. To earn more and more money, unlawful ways are invented, which formulate the network of corruption. As of result of corruption, the poor becomes poorer and the rich becomes richer. As a result of this increase in the gap, social revolutions have come and terrorism is one of those. Sin is the basis of corruption and this spoils even the life after death in the upper worlds. The controlled growth of science in ancient India developed very few amenities only, which could be available to everyone even with little money. Hence, the very basis of corruption was absent in those days. Today, scientists find that these amenities are responsible for the environmental pollution, leading to global destruction. Therefore, all the steps of this analysis end in the uncontrolled growth of science and technology.

The growth of science leads to negligence of God, which is the basis for doing the sin without fear. In ancient India, very little development of science and technology was present, creating minimum number of amenities, which could be attained by everyone easily.

There is no need of much argument in this topic because there is a clear practical resultant difference between the people of ancient times and the people of modern times that the ancient people lived with more longevity, with better physique and more mental peace and the exact contrast is seen in the modern people. The actual aim of science blessed by God was only to analyze the creation and realize that creator is beyond all this creation. Every item in this creation, including awareness was subjected to scientific analysis to arrive at the conclusion that no created item is the creator (neti neti… Veda). By this, it became easy to recognize that God was unimaginable. The faith in the existence of the unimaginable power, the God, was the basis of the establishment of the golden society without corruption and global destruction. Major portion of scientific analysis was only to understand that God is beyond this imaginable creation, rewarding the good deeds and punishing the bad deeds done by any human being in this society through His unimaginable power since God by Himself is unimaginable.
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DUH!!
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When I first arrived in Adelaide in the 1970's, the cubicles in public conveniences didn't have doors. Now they do. Public conveniences in China didn't have doors twenty years ago, when I was there. Now, I believe, they do. Thus human modesty is enhanced. Is this against God's wishes?
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Ad hominem. What's god, from a quasi-theistic standpoint?
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"Your own Science clearly proves that every comfort developed by science and technology is towards harming the health of human beings and also finally leading to disturbance in the ecological balance leading to natural calamities that destroy the world."

this coming from a guy who lives in a country so primitive, over crowded and filthy, u can't even swim in a river without getting cancer or growing a third leg.

that's how great a culture becomes when it criminalizes science and remains hyper-religious.

All the while the Hindu working classes have to suffer this bullshit.
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Quite a lot to unpack there.
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I'm reminded of the man who didn't wear glasses, who knew a smattering of Arabic, who, I realized, never actually smoked despite the fact that ...?
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MORONIC TOPIC!
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manna from heaven... microwave popcorn...

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Interestingly, "modern" conveniences have been around for at least 3000 years. Public conveniences existed in Mohenji Daro (Northern India). In Europe, flushable toilets have been found dating back to 3500-4000 BPE.
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popeye1945 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:12 pmDUH!!
Hey, come on, some people need a guru to channel God's opinion about whether it's alright to pee in a toilet.
What's easy for you to work out on your own, may well be harder for others to work out.
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Nothing in life is simple, eh?
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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:01 pm
popeye1945 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:12 pmDUH!!
Hey, come on, some people need a guru to channel God's opinion about whether it's alright to pee in a toilet.
What's easy for you to work out on your own, may well be harder for others to work out.
If they are channeling god, they are not channeling much. It is a moronic topic!

"To God all things are right and good, only to man, some things are, and some things are not." Heraclitus
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