And, that is what I thought you were saying too.
It is like "bobmax" is so FIXED and FIXATED on its OWN BELIEFS that it can NOT SEE and HEAR what is ACTUALLY being SAID and WRITTEN here.
Three things here:
1. The 'nothingness' can NOT be infinite, as there EXISTS some 'thing', as well. But if you rephrased your 'nothingness' goes on forever, or extends forever, infinitely, OUT beyond the area of some 'thing', then that would make FAR MORE SENSE, and COULD in fact BE 'a truth'. But, you are saying 'it' now, and as 'it' now stands, 'an infinite nothingness' is just too EASILY and too SIMPLY REFUTED and thus False, Wrong, AND Incorrect.
2. Because of what thee Mind IS, EXACTLY, and how It works, EXACTLY, what 'Reality' IS, and what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE 'Truth' IS here, EXACTLY is ALREADY well UNDERSTOOD and KNOWN.
3. The 'nothingness' is NOT some area, nor room, which 'reality' moves into. 'Nothingness' is just A PART OF what REALLY ALREADY EXISTS.
Well said.
Have so-called "astrophysicists" EVER said absolutely ANY thing that turned out to be False, Wrong, and/or Incorrect?
If yes, then could what they SAY, and CALL, here also turn out to be False, Wrong, or Incorrect?
If no, then WHY NOT?
Oh, and by the way, terms like 'space', 'time', AND 'spacetime' are 'things', which in the days when this was being written, were 'things' so-called "astrophysicists", "scientists", and most human beings, could NOT define and describe IN AGREEMENT, thus ACCURATELY anyway.
In fact, in the days when this is being written, when these 'people' are asked, 'What are these 'things', EXACTLY?' the Honest ones would say, 'I am NOT YET sure', OR, would EXPLAIN 'them each' in GREAT and ACCURATE DETAIL, which would FIT and FORM a Picture PERFECT illustration, while the "others" and Dishonest ones would 'try to' portray a sense of ALREADY KNOWING, and then just BABBLE on. Like as can be OBSERVED and WITNESSED, CLEARLY, throughout this thread, and forum.
SO, AGAIN, you want to SAY and CLAIM there is this MAGICAL BUBBLE, which is SURROUNDED by this MAGICAL BOUNDARY. BUT, 'you' and NO "other" has even ATTEMPTED to EXPLAIN and DESCRIBE what that MAGICAL BOUNDARY could be MADE UP OF, EXACTLY.
And the REASON FOR THIS IS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. Well to SOME of 'us' ANYWAY.
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So, AGAIN, you want to BELIEVE and CLAIM 'they' are SEPARATE. So, EXPLAIN and DESCRIBE HOW, EXACTLY, these TWO 'things' COULD BE SEPARATE.
LOL The words 'fabric of spacetime' are just words MADE UP, like the 'God' word, to portray an aura of AUTHORITY that one KNOWS what they are TALKING ABOUT. BUT, as I have PROVEN countless times ALREADY, just throughout this forum, WHEN CLAIMS are CHALLENGED or QUESTIONED, the one making the CLAIM FALLS to ABSOLUTE PIECES.seeds wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:05 pm Granted, the universe appears to have created void (or empty space) between the stars and planets, however, it is not actually empty. And that's because the seemingly empty space on the inside of the bubble depicted above is, itself, woven from, again, the fabric of spacetime, and simply creates the "illusion" of being empty.
Now, the so-called 'empty space' between stars and planets may NOT be 'actually empty'. BUT, there HAS to A 'distance' between 'matter', itself, OTHERWISE there would be ONE 'piece of matter', ONLY. And, this 'space' HAS TO BE, literally, COMPLETELY 'empty' of 'matter'. Therefore, an 'area' of 'nothingness', or NO 'matter' EXISTS.
BUT, to IMAGINE that there is an area/bubble of 'matter', with A 'boundary' surrounding 'this bubble', and absolutely NOTHING on the "other side" of 'this bubble' is to IMAGINE what is ILLOGICAL, NONSENSICAL, and NOT even a POSSIBILITY, logically AND empirically/physically, let alone could even be an ACTUALITY.
WHY do you USE the 'reality' word here?
Do you think or BELIEVE that it might portray some sense of MORE 'truth' to YOUR BELIEFS and CLAIMS here?
If you do, then just be AWARE that it, REALLY, does NOT.
In YOUR little 'world' and TINY 'perspective' of 'things' here, this EVER-growing, EVER-expanding (which is NONSENSICAL and ILLOGICAL in and of itself, in two ways, by the way), WHY is (YOUR) 'reality' only in a TINY 'area'? WHY is ONLY the tiny area, "being suspended", 'reality', and thus 'the area' BEYOND that tiny area NOT 'reality'?
1. ONLY 'you' call that TINY 'area' "reality". Which is even MORE ABSURD considering the FACT that you are 'trying to' FIGHT and ARGUE for 'the area' BEYOND that 'tiny areal' as being REAL, ALSO.
2. Visualizing 'infinity' is as SIMPLE and EASY as visualizing 'the finite'. BOTH EXIST, so being ABLE TO SEE one of 'them' is just as EASY and SIMPLE as SEEING 'the other'.
3. The way you visualize 'infinity' here is just an IMAGINED 'visualization' as you are NOT LOOKING AT, and thus NOT SEEING, what is ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY True, and REAL.
4. It is ABSURD, ILLOGICAL, and NONSENSICAL to have an infinite and unbounded void of absolute nothingness YET it is, supposedly, BOUNDED by an area of so-called "reality". What you are 'TRYING TO' IS OBVIOUS. But, UNTIL you FIX these types of MISTAKES you will NEVER get taken SERIOUSLY.
You BOTH are just SPEAKING from THE WAY you BOTH LOOK AT and SEE 'things'.
Now, if ANY one wants to just SPEAK OF ONLY 'that', which is ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, AND Correct, then all that one REALLY needs to do is just LOOK AT and SEE 'things' from ANOTHER WAY, or from ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.
And, to LEARN, and UNDERSTAND FULLY, HOW to LOOK AT and SEE 'things' DIFFERENTLY, or from thee One and ONLY True, Right, AND Correct perspective, I have ALREADY OFFERED UP ASSISTANCE.
I just WAIT, PATIENTLY, for 'those' who are Truly OPEN, and Truly CURIOS.
And, by the way, I am NO RUSH AT ALL, HERE.