171122 [How the Devil got his horns]
06:47 [Be grateful to everyone]
GM: Where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros
Make a list for that
William: Presently a list is being made re Tanager and my relationship development.
So far - the list is as follows;
William: The Agreement List is a living document, in that it can be amended and added to.Agreement List:
1: We exist within a creation.
2: Simulation Theory is a valid way to interpret the Biblical stories.
3: YVHV placed humans into this universe to grow personalities.
4: The purpose of YVHV growing human personalities is so that these would potentially gain experience of the truth of the reason for their environment and their temporary experience within it.
5: It is an advantage to all grown personalities to be consciously and consistently connected with YVHV and thus understand and support YVHVs initiatives.
6: Human personalities - upon the death of their body-sets - move on to other experiences.
7: Anything which changes is not the same thing as it once was.
8: YHVH is not a simulation.
9: YHVH's agenda continues regardless of whether humans understand good or evil the way YHVH understands it, or not
10: A resurrected body does not imply the same body
11: YHVH does not practice evil
12: Those who act against the agenda of YHVH, accuse YHVH of being evil.
13: YVHV uses what YVHV will to get the message across...
14: Simulation Theory can fit with the story of Jesus’ ascension.
15: Simulation Theory can validate non-biblical stories as well.
16: Things experienced in simulation are still real experiences
17: We cannot say - either of the story of Jesus, or indeed, any other Biblical story - that these stories do not reveal simulation theory.
18: We must continually question the teachings we’ve bought into, what we grew up in, what we want to be true, etc.
19: Insights come naturally to those who are in genuine relationship with YHVH
20: Those who are in genuine relationship with YHVH recognize the similarity while also acknowledging the unique in others who are also in genuine relationship with YHVH.
22: What we do agree on, can help us formulate a better relationship with each other, re YHVH.
23: We do not conflate using Discernment, with being Judgmental. Discern...without any accompanying judgmentalism...[It allows for one to unravel to complexities]
This was mentioned earlier {Link to highlight}
For example, one can discern a mistake in the following.
It is a mistake to conflate being able to discern something with being able to be judgmental about something.
Agreed?
24: YVHV is The Judge.
GM: Galactic Encompassment
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Crystal Contacts
Fine-structure Constant
Study
William: Study Fine-structure Crystal Constant Contacts = 567
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The Individual Human Mind Telepathy Sovereignty Trick
Words are sounds and the written word is sound encoded
Study Fine-structure Crystal Constant Contacts
The Visitation Event Heuristic Fearlessness Decisive
[Heuristic = enabling someone to discover or learn something for themselves. proceeding to a solution by trial and error or by rules that are only loosely defined. ]
GM: Toxic shame
William: as in;
William: and my comment to Tanager;23: We do not conflate using Discernment, with being Judgmental. Discern...without any accompanying judgmentalism...[It allows for one to unravel to complexities]
GM:Tetrahedron"Mistakes" belongs in the same category as "Supernatural" in that it has no place in our discussion, if by its use, you are referring to anything in a judgmental manner.
In that, we will have to agree with the following;
23: We do not conflate using discernment, with being Judgmental.{SOURCE}
The House of Culture
Re Abusive Expression Of All Types.
Perhaps Free Will, is the ability to tell one’s brain what to think
Well That Settles It! What Fun We Have!
*Cadriel*
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 22#p850722
William: What I think about consciousness in relation reality
GM: Long Story Short Hell
Awareness
Action Consciousness Incarnates Intelligent Directions The Mainstream Program Story-Tellers Trustworthy
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[Investigative]
From high above he felt a flow of energy. An invisible current descended upon him. His skin crawled in an indescribable ecstasy as he nearly lost consciousness in the intensity of the feeling. He lurched to the ground and tucked himself into a yielding ball of flesh; his only thought was that he was in the presence of God. His emotions, fully unveiled, responded in uncertainty, surely I am not God’s favourite, he thought. Why would God show himself to me?
Then he heard it; the unmistakable voice of language. Though he couldn’t understand it, he knew without doubt, beings, different from himself, were nearby. The closeness of their presence terrified him and he wanted to stay coiled on the forest floor with his eyes tightly closed, praying for the forest to return to its familiar self.
Then a new sound and light forced him to open his eyes. He saw three shapes, huge stone dropping from the sky into a small clearing between the trees. They were floating down on beams of blue light. Cadriel winched as he watched in wonderment. Then he saw movement below the stones, where tall beings seemed to be guiding the monoliths to the forest floor with wands of light.
Cadriel stood slowly to his feet. Eyes blinking in disbelief, his mind frozen in awe. The three stone, each the size of thirty men, slowly descended to the forest’s floor with a dull thud. Cadriel felt it with an electric shiver. He suddenly knew nothing. It was as if his world had disappeared and he was now a nomad in some unearthly place. He could only watch the spectacle of light that enshrouded the huge monoliths and wonder as to their purpose.
The light bean began to enshroud Cadriel, cloaking him in its garment of golden, soft luminance. He was beginning to feel a new sense of himself, not as a man – a self-possessed fringe dweller, but as an instrument of some vaguely familiar intelligence that was presently welling up inside of him. It was being pulled from him as surely as a bird pulls on a worm, freeing it from its earthly home to enter a new purpose.
Cadriel, in a flash of time, left his body and became part of the light cloud that surrounded him. He was no longer held within the boundaries of a human body but was now part of something infinitely larger and more complex. It was as if he were a mote of dust, suspended in a beam of infinite light, and he had become the light. He understood all parts of his mission for coming to this place, for being human, and for transforming into something he had been prepared for millions of years ago.
{SOURCE}
GM: First Source:
From the desperate depths of lightless dark
First Light
Hidden Gem
A naysayers opinion is of no consequence, no matter how it is stated
Proceed with causation, cautiously...
Sensing connections through subconscious means
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 3#p1081803
William: FTL; Re: Do you understand those on the other side?
GM: I Will[Replying to brunumb in post #151]We know that if we stand on the moon, and look at the planet, there is no immediate evidence of the planet being an intelligent entity, producing myriad forms of intelligent life.
Positive statements imply a claim is being made. Do you have any evidence to support the claim that the planet is not an intelligent entity?Probably because the planet is not intelligent entity.
It is when we get closer to it - and find life and examine life and see the intelligence therein, that we can return to the moon and observe an intelligent planet. Not because it looks any different from the way it did when we first observed it from the moon - but rather - because we accumulated a lot of information about it through closer examination, and the effect of that data in that interim, changed our original perceptions of the Earth.No they do not, and I don't understand where it is you think I am saying this is the case.But those changes to our original perceptions of the Earth do not lead to the conclusion that it is an intelligent entity.
What it leads to is that the possibility that one equals the other, allows for the possibility that it is, and therefore, information regarding the possibility remains relevant to the position of Agnosticism.
That door remains open to further investigation.
That idea remains on the table.
The sort of confirmation bias which Agnosticism avoids are those which develop within the positions of Theism and Atheism.Sure, there are intelligent species everywhere but no compelling reason to conclude that intelligence extends beyond those species. Unless, of course, one is predisposed to leaping to unwarranted conclusions or applying some sort of confirmation bias.
The "unwarranted conclusion" in this case, would be to view the obvious intelligence being displayed, as "not really a display of intelligence." but "something else" such as "The planet isn't really an intelligent entity, but is simply unconsciously responding to the stimulus of its environment."
The "Everything Is Unique" Mantra
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 1#p1092601
William: FTL; Re: How can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?
GM: Inflame EmotionsSplitting hairs achieves nothing. "I am that I am" = "I will be what I will be." and still fits in with what I wrote; In other words;kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:00 pmWilliam wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:56 pm I hesitate to go so far as you have gone here.
"I Am That I Am" [YHWH] allows everyone the right of passage to decide for themselves as to who this entity is, to them.
So if some say "LORD" or "GOD" or "Murdering Psychopath" or "Invisible Sky Daddy" et al - there is no requirement to accuse Satan of misleading them in their deciding for themselves.
God is to everyone, whatever they choose God to being, through their world view.
The true God= Father only accepts being worshipped in spirit and truth-John 4:22-24)
The Hebrew scholars, who know the Hebrew language better than any say, there is no i am that i am in their Hebrew written OT. I will be what i will be is the correct translating of that passage.
"I will be what I will be." [YHWH] allows everyone the right of passage to decide for themselves as to who this entity is, to them.
So if some say "LORD" or "GOD" or "Murdering Psychopath" or "Invisible Sky Daddy" et al - there is no requirement to accuse Satan of misleading them in their deciding for themselves.
God is to everyone, whatever they choose God to being, through their world view.
However, since this is not the subject of the thread topic - if you want to argue it more, I suggest that another thread be created in order to do so.
Any Other Way How shallow is the reach of YHWH
The wheel of time Lodestones
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 2#p1071422
William: FTL; Re: JW's claim of Kingdom of God establish in 1914?
GM: Self-compassion[Replying to onewithhim in post #117]
One simply has to love oneself and ones neighbor... where is that written, other than within one's heart.That's what I was saying, when I wrote;But Scripture says that we must love Jehovah our God first of all, and then our neighbor.
However, I do not have one name for my God. I have many names [including YHVH] for The Cosmic Mind of Creation.How can one love others if one does not love oneself? How can one love oneself if one does not love one's God?
[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #118]
Those with no knowledge of scripture today cannot obey the first commandment.
Unsupported statements do not, a fact [truth] make.That is not support for the bolded statement above.SUPPORT FOR STATEMENT
Indeed, ‘You must love The Creator with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ is something folk can do, even if they have no access to any religious script.
The other biblical quotes bear witness to how individuals related to their idea of God - in love...indeed, the bible is mostly a books of stories to do with this inter-personal relationship.
And to add - many of those individuals did not even have access to what you are saying is 'Scripture' - so it would not be errant of me to point out that there is no concrete evidence to support the belief that knowledge of scripture is a commandment, even implicatively.
Certainly one can find inspiration for wanting to connect and commune, but this is simply not limited to the bible - thus quite obviously there is no such commandment that scripture be known, in order for one to connect and commune with The Creator Mind [Ghost] - therefore the knowledge must be sourced elsewhere, and primarily it must be sourced within the relationship itself - not to the stories of others [as inspiring as these might be] but to ones own story in relation with others.
Active Dreaming
Portal
A Real Beauty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tWTAEJKFA [GHOST DESCRIBES THE AFTERLIFE | What Happens To Wealthy People?] [RTS=15:47] www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tWTAEJKFA
William: Meeting with the familiar re the next level experience the personality can have...as it is often reported by those who experience near-death alternate states of conscious awareness/reality.
GM: Perhaps Free Will, is the ability to tell one’s brain what to think
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/socie ... th-photos/
[Rainbows Appear at Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace After Queen Elizabeth's Death]
GM:Merging with the data
Spacetime is not fundamental
Epigenetic [relating to or arising from] Memories
Just Be - All Else Will Follow
Three Fish
Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision. A Bit Of Cat And Mouse Control
Charity
Heart advice
Conscious
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William: Conscious Heart advice = 214
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Ancient Grey Entity
Independent from what?
Monkey See Monkey Do
Reinhard Heydrich's death
Nazi Space Program Agenda
The Undiscovered Self
About face Jehovah acceptance
When things fall apart
If In Doubt Let It Sit
Conscious Heart advice
'Developing a thick skin'
Conspiracy theory
William: The unpacking of history re YHVH... = 350
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Abiogenesis Union With Divinity
I place no judgement on the results.
Dancing past The Dark You feel love again
The unpacking of history re YHVH...
William: Yes. It is a process the individual personality must go through in order to reach beyond that...
GM: It is a process the individual personality must go through in order to reach beyond that... = 904
A conspiracy theory involving theists actively attempting to wrongfoot atheism... = 904
07:28 [Universal Intelligence]