211222 [Separate Selfishness Shining]
06:24 [Important Journey]
GM: Illuminate Imaginative Realities
The bits will suffice.
The Sensation of God's Presence Inside Us
In The Mirror - Mirror Sense
Yam
Look For the Significance
Concomitant [a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]
"From the link"
Optimum Validation
WingMakers Medium
More
The Minds Eye
"And the wind will blow my tears away"
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 1#p1089771
William: FTL;
GM: Theist mischief makingI was being specific to statements of opinion, rather than claims.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:31 pmAs an atheist, I'm not above referring to science in support of various claims I, or others, may make.
For example, a common argument from atheists that there cannot be a Creator-GOD because "Evolution" when it is clear that the theory of evolution offers no evidence that we do not exist within a creation.
Stuff like that.
On the surface this sounds logical.It's just such a good source for confirmatory data. That theists can't, or struggle to refer to science in order to promote their beliefs is their problem, not a problem of scientific principles.
However, on the belief that we exist within a creation = "Therefore a Creator-GOD" there has been no science done which provides any of us with the right to premise. ["Therefore a Creator-GOD"]
Thus, promoting beliefs in ideas of Creator-GODs is cart before the horse stuff.
However, if one proceeds in a horse before the cart manner, the focus is on the idea that we exist within a creation, we can then look for evidence within the reality experience we call 'The Universe" and see what can be found therein to support the notion that the reality experience is a creation.
Thanks for saying so. We share in the intrigue.As you know, I'm very intrigued by your Cosmic Mind hypothesis. I want your notion to be true, to be scientifically proven, insofar as how neat I think it would be. I'd love for the scientific community to be able to offer confirmation in this regard. Sadly though, you and I enjoy this notion without such confirmation.
For me, the notion certainly appears to be true re the evidence - even through the Message Generating Process under development - [Today's GM] is certainly understandable enough and deals with this subject in more detail.
As I understand it, IF there is a "Cosmic Mind" involved with the creation of our Universe, scientists will eventually [naturally] discover this just by continuing to do science.
In the meantime I do my own science, and am satisfied with the results so far.
Going off of the readership stats so far, there appears to be a consistent reader-interest where I post the GMs - here, and in other internet forums...
My position is that - in the last 24 hours - I have decided that am done with interacting with atheists and being distracted by their statements of opinion re the Question of GOD...except for the exception of JK because you have consistently shown a willingness to remain open minded about the idea of a "Cosmic Mind" and it is undeniable that such a Mind - if it truly exists - could be referred to as a "GOD'.Granted, where an atheist (or anyone) refers to science and gets it wrong, we oughta all fuss about that.
In all my years of interacting with atheists, I have never had the pleasure and - like I say - After years of subjection to atheist opinions, I have had enough of it.
What will you do if/when science discovers that we actually do exist within a creation?As an amateur, a wanna-be scientist, maybe I rely too much on science in support of my own world view.
That is an irrelevant opinion to me, because - as you know - I am not a Theist or an Atheist because I see no logic in having an opinion on GOD until it can be established that we exist within a creation.I submit though, that cracking open the bible ain't the way to fix that.
The closest I come to that, is with the notion that there MAY be a "Cosmic Mind" and if such can be identified in ANY religious script, I am open [of mind] to investigating that.
Otherwise - since I am not advocating folk need to do that, it is not an issue I have to answer to.
Thanks for you feedback John.
A cultural touchstone
Things just appear that way due to our position within things and our ignorance about most things.
All of Life a bit of Cat and Mouse
"Hear thee Hear Thee"
Stay Present
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 5#p1091425
Micro Reflections of a Macro Reality
Wall-Walker
Practicing peace
Ars Notoria
William: Yes - the 'Angels and Demons" being aspects of our subconscious reality which is an aspect of the self often overlooked and misunderstood...
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 5#p1091105
William: FTL;
GM: Christian mythology re God " It helps makes the stinky hole I was pushed through in order to get here, a purposeful experience..."[Replying to tam in post #110]
They are not "claims" they are statements of opinion in response to your own statements of opinion.I am averse to the assumptions you are making, the utter lack of evidence you are providing for your claims - including the lack of evidence you have provided for everything in this very post...
As such, neither of us are required to provide evidence...or find aversity therein.
My opinion to do with Satan is not ignoring what the Bible tells us of Satan's Character. His Role is specific to that, and obviously useful to the God of the Bible, as the Bible tells it.as well as the double-standard you are employing in using the 'bible' to speak of "Satan" to begin with, all the while ignoring the very evidence that book provides about his nature.
William: You seem adverse to my understanding that the way Satan is utilized by God is reflected onto God and can be seen for what it is, by the audience.
I do not have those images you have in your beliefs about Satan, and am not accusing anyone, Satan, God or Job, Christ, David Paul or any other entity effected by God.I am pointing out the irony re your accusations about me. All accusations [about me or anyone else] come from Satan - which is to say - are mirrored finger-pointing. My "Accuser" [in this case "Tam"] is regarded by me, as voicing accusation = "as coming from Satan" since he is the God-Father of accusation.Accusing them of what? I'm not sure where that comment is coming from.
[Perhaps have a think about how Peace is formed...it is never formed through the voicing of accusation.]
William: I simply pointed out that there is no mention of Job being consulted on the matter before being cast into the role.Exactly! It is not expected that in the affairs between YHWH and Satan, that humans need be consulted before they are used re said affairs. This theme and it's varients run through the Bible in relation to the God and Human beings.Why are you pointing that out when no one suggested otherwise?
That is a statement of opinion Tam. I appreciate it as such, and thus require no evidence from you to back it up.I listen to the TRUTHFUL voice of Christ Jaheshua, who is the Light.
Joey has shared with us all, his dilemma. You both share the same "hearing a voice" phenomena. It is appropriate for me to point that out, and so I did.I also think it is inappropriate for you to use my friend Joey (peace to you!) in an argument with me. So just don't.
Just because we might be existing within a creation, and just because it may be nestled within another universe, shouldn't mean that it is somehow an unnatural thing compared to our own.
Grace
Families
Friendship is an agreement between individuals to support one another in any way they can, for mutually beneficial results.
Who Knows What That Is Worth?
Make It Real
06:35
06:49
GM: Coming From QueenBee
Your Dream Team
Callum's Seventh Point
I Think We Can Safely Say
Recover what was lost Do A=1
Do this
Giving our best
This Perpetually Translates To That.
William: This Perpetually Translates To That. Giving our best Does this = 687
Six Eight Seven = 166
[166]
Enflame Emotions
Centre of learning
Supernatural
Self-compassion
The Healing Power
Interesting data
Science of Truth
It is what it is
Solar System
Tetragrammaton
Personal freedom
GM: Religious theists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through wilful ignorance.
Circle
Things just appear that way due to our position within things and our ignorance about most things.
Read
Be Honest
Yellow Light
Calculation
Stop. Listen. Observe. Wonder.
Dualism Separates Because Oneness Remains Hidden
Unless of course, you think otherwise
The Truth
It can bite and scratch so one has to be careful
William: "Chuckles"
GM: Catching up
Try To Feel It
Context
Fugacious [tending to disappear; fleeting.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 2#p1089192
William: FTL;
GM: Fling That Veil AsideGM: Especially re the possibility of the planet having a mind in which all our minds are connected...in ways we are not overly conscious of... = 1289
[One Two Eight Nine = 183]
[183]
Elemental Powers
Fling That Veil Aside
Test The Waters
The Hubble Telescope
Manifest Destiny
Planned obsolescence
Hydrogen and helium
Learn to trust
The brain as a receiver
Sister Saturn
Truthfulness
Transformation
Embracing your life
The problem of evil
Cosmic Pluralism
Children of The Light
Truthfulness
Embracing your life
Cosmic Pluralism
Transformation
Test The Waters
The brain as a receiver
Sister Saturn
Hydrogen and helium
The Hubble Telescope
Children of The Light
Elemental Powers
Planned obsolescence
Manifest Destiny
Learn to trust
The problem of evil
William: Hmmm...
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 6#p1069816
William: "Master ColdFire trick" Testing the waters - Tanager performed his role well re that he prompted Callum to remain calm while all hell was breaking loose...which it wasn't - the trick was in trying to make Callum believe that it was, and Tanager wasn't buying into that...
GM: Only
Yours It is always a warm fuzzy
William: Well yes. Immediately Tanager responded as he did, I dropped the façade and then had to deal with the backlash and interference by Tanager with one of my own Characters...he would not let go of for the longest time...rules of engagement were broken...
GM: Nyx
07:21
[221]
What kind of god is this?
Sweet Illumination
Closer to The Source
First Things First
Who woulda thought!