Quantum physics requires imaginary numbers to explain reality

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socrat44
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Quantum physics requires imaginary numbers to explain reality

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Quantum physics requires imaginary numbers to explain reality
Theories based only on real numbers fail to explain the results of two new experiments
By Emily Conover, 20 HOURS AGO
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Imaginary numbers might seem like unicorns and goblins — interesting but irrelevant to reality.
But for describing matter at its roots, imaginary numbers turn out to be essential.
They seem to be woven into the fabric of quantum mechanics, the math describing
the realm of molecules, atoms and subatomic particles. A theory obeying the rules
of quantum physics needs imaginary numbers to describe the real world,
two new experiments suggest.
Quantum theory’s prominent use of complex numbers — sums of imaginary and real numbers —
was disconcerting to its founders, including physicist Erwin Schrödinger. “From the early days
of quantum theory, complex numbers were treated more as a mathematical convenience
than a fundamental building block,” says physicist Jingyun Fan of the Southern University
of Science and Technology in Shenzhen, China.
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https://www.sciencenews.org/article/qua ... 10PeTJ0Vik
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socrat44 wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:55 pm Quantum physics requires imaginary numbers to explain reality
Theories based only on real numbers fail to explain the results of two new experiments
By Emily Conover, 20 HOURS AGO
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Imaginary numbers might seem like unicorns and goblins — interesting but irrelevant to reality.
But for describing matter at its roots, imaginary numbers turn out to be essential.
They seem to be woven into the fabric of quantum mechanics, the math describing
the realm of molecules, atoms and subatomic particles. A theory obeying the rules
of quantum physics needs imaginary numbers to describe the real world,
Imaginary numbers are NOT required to describe the 'real world' at all. The 'real world' does NOT need imagination at all.

Either that 'theory' obeying the interpreted "rules of quantum physics", or the "rules", themselves, are just Wrong or Incorrect.
socrat44 wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:55 pm two new experiments suggest.
Quantum theory’s prominent use of complex numbers — sums of imaginary and real numbers —
was disconcerting to its founders, including physicist Erwin Schrödinger. “From the early days
of quantum theory, complex numbers were treated more as a mathematical convenience
than a fundamental building block,” says physicist Jingyun Fan of the Southern University
of Science and Technology in Shenzhen, China.
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https://www.sciencenews.org/article/qua ... 10PeTJ0Vik
The only 'maths' needed to understand, properly AND correctly, or FULLY, the so-called 'real world' is to just add the number of the parts to reach the sum of the WHOLE.
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Cosmic vacuum and the imaginary particles.
According to ''the theory of Ideal Gas'' (aka Cosmic vacuum) and
J.Charles law (1787) in the vacuum particles cannot have volume,
they must have geometrical form of circle / membrane: pi=3,14159 . . .
Geometric form ''Pi'' belongs to the real negative, virtual quantum
particle: (i^2=-1). We cannot reach the T=0K and we cannot reach
the thickness of these particles, but this does not deny their reality.
All chemical gas-particles were born from the initial, negative,
imaginary particles of ‘‘the Ideal Gas''.
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Imaginary numbers could be needed to describe reality, new studies find
By Ben Turner published 3 days ago
If standard quantum theory holds up, imaginary numbers are critical.
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Imaginary numbers are necessary to accurately describe reality, two new studies have suggested.
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In fact, even the founders of quantum mechanics themselves thought that the implications of having
complex numbers in their equations was disquieting. In a letter to his friend Hendrik Lorentz,
physicist Erwin Schrödinger — the first person to introduce complex numbers into quantum theory,
with his quantum wave function (ψ) — wrote, "What is unpleasant here, and indeed directly
to be objected to, is the use of complex numbers. Ψ is surely fundamentally a real function."
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socrat44 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:25 pm Imaginary numbers could be needed to describe reality, new studies find
By Ben Turner published 3 days ago
This sounded familiar. I wrote a long screed thoroughly debunking this nonsense, summed up as: Moral of the story: Don't listen to physicists when they're doing bad math.

Long story short, the complex number i simply represents a quarter turn counterclockwise in the plane. Complex numbers are as natural as tuna salad. Lots more background on the subject here ...

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=32945&p=509532#p509532

Wait ... The OP here was the same one who posted this back in May. Recycling your material! Thirty years in Gitmo, alongside the phone scammers. Also, I need to see if your automobile repair warranty is up to date.
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wtf wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:43 am Also, I need to see if your automobile repair warranty is up to date.
don't worry buddy , your car doesn't work on the quantum warranties
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