I find it annoying when you talk like that. We are not card decks being run through the great IBM 1442 punchcard reader in the sky. I don't think you're being serious when you say things like that. It seems trollish to me. And if you are being serious, it's even worse. Normally I would ask you what you mean by your "runtime," and if there is a corresponding compile time. But I don't want to know. It would not be a productive conversation.
That we're card decks? Or algorithms of any sort? I reject that thesis utterly. But you already know that. We have no idea how to implement consciousness. Except, as philosopher and computer scientist David Gelernter said, "the old fashioned way." You get yourself a male and a female of the species and they implement a new consciousness. That's the only way we know how to do it. Delicacy precludes further elaboration.
The Cartesian one. I think therefore I am. My reality may be a simulation, or an illusion created by a supremely clever daemon; but the "I" that experiences it, is real.
But there is some deceiver or other, very powerful and very cunning, who ever employs his ingenuity in deceiving me. Then without doubt I exist also if he deceives me, and let him deceive me as much as he will, he can never cause me to be nothing so long as I think that I am something. So that after having reflected well and carefully examined all things, we must come to the definite conclusion that this proposition: I am, I exist, is necessarily true each time that I pronounce it, or that I mentally conceive it. -- Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy, 1641
That's my consciousness.
I confess I was influenced by my history with my friend Skepdick. But yes I see your point. And actually I think it's Dennett among others who deny the existence of consciousness. I can't fathom the meaning of that claim. But it's considered respectable in the philosophy biz so if I say it's nonsense, that's only my opinion and not one shared by the professionals.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:52 pm You cannot make that characterization. Skepdick may either be conscious or not. He just doesn’t know which is the case.