Scientific progress justification

[Lariliss]

We are getting more and more exciting news on human achievements going to deep space exploration, challenging science missions to the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury. They are looking into the future and getting more popularity and discussions.
Celebrating all the achievements of 2019 - 2021.

At the same time the climate change subject is an urgent one. It needs fast action on already happened disasters, proactive plans and deeds for the nearest future.
Being so keen to conquer other worlds, shouldn’t we think more about planet Earth?

There are lots of things to do here in key scientific/technological areas: sea bed exploration, efficient land reclaim and use, power sources development.

Intertwine of the Earth and space fields development is one of the key actions done. Space exploration is security from cosmos factors (solar activity, asteroid danger, debris impact).

Satellites surveillance for local ecosystems and data collection for scientific research and fast action, global awareness on local issues, data connection - the more the better - should be in focus to bring valuable results. The page on space exploration science in favor of the Earth tells the story.

[jayjacobus]

The most pressing scientific progress is how to protect people from adverse events. The most difficult to deal with is genocide. If technology can come up with defensive equipment that thwarts killing and rapes, technology would prove its value.

[Impenitent]

The most pressing scientific progress is how to protect people from adverse events. The most difficult to deal with is genocide. If technology can come up with defensive equipment that thwarts killing and rapes, technology would prove its value.

Sam Colt was here

-Imp

[henry quirk]

The most pressing scientific progress is how to protect people from adverse events. The most difficult to deal with is genocide. If technology can come up with defensive equipment that thwarts killing and rapes, technology would prove its value.

Sam Colt was here

-Imp

I favor Stoeger.

[Age]

We are getting more and more exciting news on human achievements going to deep space exploration, challenging science missions to the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury. They are looking into the future and getting more popularity and discussions.
Celebrating all the achievements of 2019 - 2021.

At the same time the climate change subject is an urgent one.

What EXACTLY is the 'subject', which you claim here is an URGENT ONE?

It needs fast action on already happened disasters,

How is it possible to provide ANY 'action' on an 'already happened disaster'?

proactive plans and deeds for the nearest future.

WHY do you say there NEEDS to be fast action on 'proactive plans and deeds', yet you are doing the very OPPOSITE of those 'proactive plans and deeds'? Meaning, you are doing the VERY THING that is causing human made climate change. So, WHY keep doing the very things, which you claim a subject about is an 'urgent one'?

Being so keen to conquer other worlds, shouldn’t we think more about planet Earth?

What "other world's" are there that 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written, are supposedly keen to conquer?

If, however, you are wondering WHY 'you', human beings, are wanting to explore and discover more of thee Universe, Itself, instead of fixing up and preventing the mess, which you are creating on earth at this present moment, then this is because 'you', adult human beings, do NOT like to LOOK AT the Wrong you do, and because discovering and exploring is a Truly natural part of being a human being.

There are lots of things to do here in key scientific/technological areas: sea bed exploration, efficient land reclaim and use, power sources development.

What do you want to explore the sea bed for, EXACTLY?

Why do you want to reclaim land and use it for, EXACTLY?

The most long lasting, efficient, and pollution-free power/energy source will NOT come into development until 'you', adult human beings, CHANGE your Wrong and Bad ways.

Intertwine of the Earth and space fields development is one of the key actions done. Space exploration is security from cosmos factors (solar activity, asteroid danger, debris impact).

So, to you, putting more human created space exploring debris/junk into space, which in turn could come back to impact on earth is security against debris impact, correct?

If no, then what are you saying here?

Satellites surveillance for local ecosystems and data collection for scientific research and fast action, global awareness on local issues, data connection - the more the better - should be in focus to bring valuable results. The page on space exploration science in favor of the Earth tells the story.

[Lariliss]

Thank you for amendments. It was not to be a huge article.

So, to you, putting more human created space exploring debris/junk into space, which in turn could come back to impact on earth is security against debris impact, correct?

If no, then what are you saying here?

Both branches: space aimed and the Earth aimed are bound with the same or similar technologies and in may times are in the same missions.

One by one to make it comprehensive and convenient to read:
- Urgent are climate and pollution.
- Action with lessons learned to make better surveillance, reporting and safety measures for similar ones.
- "other worlds" = other planets and the Moon.
- Seabed exploration program till 2050 is aimed and natural resources mining. Reclaimed areas are the ones at local level (industrial outdated, which is being done in many big cities), on global level - deserted places.

[Age]

The most pressing scientific progress is how to protect people from adverse events. The most difficult to deal with is genocide.

Well when 'you', adult human beings, uncover WHY 'you' commit genocide, then 'you' will have THEE ANSWER to preventing genocide EVER happening again.

So, WHY do 'you' commit genocide?

If technology can come up with defensive equipment that thwarts killing and rapes, technology would prove its value.

LOL
LOL
LOL

This was the typical attitude of human beings, in the days when this was being written. Instead of ADMITTING that they do Wrong, and working out WHY they do that, which can and WILL help PREVENT Wrong from EVER occurring again, then just want some thing else, like "technology", to SOLVE ALL of their OWN problems AND issues.

"technology" had ALREADY come up with guns, knives, lasers, law enforcement, police, laws, courts, judges, punishment, and ridicule but NONE of these has PREVENTED nor STOPPED 'you', human beings, from killing and raping EACH "OTHER".

The human beings, in the days when this was being written, REALLY still did NOT KNOW WHY they do what they do. In fact, it is only on the VERY RAREST of occasions that only a VERY FEW of them would even admit that they do Wrong.

[Age]

The most pressing scientific progress is how to protect people from adverse events. The most difficult to deal with is genocide. If technology can come up with defensive equipment that thwarts killing and rapes, technology would prove its value.

Sam Colt was here

-Imp

I favor Stoeger.

MORE PROOF of just how HYPOCRITICAL and CONTRADICTORY this human being REALLY IS.

[Age]

Thank you for amendments. It was not to be a huge article.

So, to you, putting more human created space exploring debris/junk into space, which in turn could come back to impact on earth is security against debris impact, correct?

If no, then what are you saying here?

Both branches: space aimed and the Earth aimed are bound with the same or similar technologies and in may times are in the same missions.

I have NO real idea what you are on about here.

One by one to make it comprehensive and convenient to read:
- Urgent are climate and pollution.

So, what EXACTLY is the 'discussion' about 'climate' and 'pollution' in which you consider it is URGENT?

To me, the 'climate' existed BEFORE human beings came into Existence, and, the 'pollution' is just caused by human beings ONLY. What else is there that you would like to discuss here?

- Action with lessons learned to make better surveillance, reporting and safety measures for similar ones.

Similar what, EXACTLY?

- "other worlds" = other planets and the Moon.

What about these things?

- Seabed exploration program till 2050 is aimed and natural resources mining. Reclaimed areas are the ones at local level (industrial outdated, which is being done in many big cities), on global level - deserted places.

I REALLY have absolutely NO idea what you are thinking about in regards to these things.

[Lariliss]

For more understanding I may propose more reported links:
Seabed:
https://seabed2030.org/
https://www.oceandecade.org/actions/the ... 0-project/
https://www.hydro-international.com/con ... nal-sprint
https://iocm.noaa.gov/seabed-2030.html

Climate change:
https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/spm/
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail ... c884da7304
https://www.carbonbrief.org/in-depth-qa ... te-science
It is not 100% confirmed that only human impact is making it. The Earth itself has its thermal processes, the solar activity impact is drastic, the turbulence of the ocean and air is almost impossible to predict. There are numbers of past and extrapolations for future, which are based on a very complicated mathematical model.

Local surveillance and action:
https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Pr ... monitoring

Plus the popular digest:
https://medium.com/@saveplanetearthoffi ... 7b69954e17

The point is that the technologies (AI, including ML, exploration models, scientific approaches, testing approaches) are shared within the scientific and technological society and used in a similar way in projects for space and the Earth for timely achievement of the set goals.
The point is going deep to space and going deep to the ocean or to the Earth mantle is unbelievably hard, that what spurs our timely achievements.

[Sculptor]

We are getting more and more exciting news on human achievements going to deep space exploration, challenging science missions to the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury. They are looking into the future and getting more popularity and discussions.
Celebrating all the achievements of 2019 - 2021.

At the same time the climate change subject is an urgent one. It needs fast action on already happened disasters, proactive plans and deeds for the nearest future.
Being so keen to conquer other worlds, shouldn’t we think more about planet Earth?

There are lots of things to do here in key scientific/technological areas: sea bed exploration, efficient land reclaim and use, power sources development.

Intertwine of the Earth and space fields development is one of the key actions done. Space exploration is security from cosmos factors (solar activity, asteroid danger, debris impact).

Satellites surveillance for local ecosystems and data collection for scientific research and fast action, global awareness on local issues, data connection - the more the better - should be in focus to bring valuable results. The page on space exploration science in favor of the Earth tells the story.

There is no good reason to send people into space outside earth orbit.
I predict that in the next 400 years the human race shall not have achieved an independant self sustaining colony anywhere outside earth's orbit.
The elephant in the room, that NASA do not tend to mention is just how hostile it is in space. Beyond earth it is simply too cold. Nearer the sun it is too hot. Venus has a massively dense corosive atmosphere and surface temperatures could easily melt lead. Mercury is a wasteland with no atmosphere.
Mars in the only candidate, but the surface temperature in the middle of summer at the equator at noon only just manages to reach room temperature, for a short while. The trip there is always going to be a 2 year journey, since there is the little problem of the sun being in the way for most of the time. You would have to take EVERYTHING with you.
You only have to consider the technology to have something as simply as a toothbrush to know that a colony is never going to be self sufficient. And the energy required to get there is enourmous, costly more than anything you could earn by going there.
Consider this.
If there was a mountain of gold bars on the Moon, it would not be economically viable to collect them.

Space is full of cosmic radiation. It has not air, no pressure. it is empty, it is dark.
By contrast humans have adapted to live in earth. Earth has everything we need to live. It recycles our very breath, our shit. Food just grows on trees, and walks about on the surface where is can be collected and cooked, with fire supplied by the rich oxygen atmosphere.
Earth has a range of temperatures, where humans have managed to live and thrive. It has rich aquatic resources, most immediately fit for human exploitation and drinking water literally FALLS FROM THE SKY.

There is no where known in the entire universe where any of this is available. And even if it were, it would take more than a life time to get there.

We have one earth and we are not looking after it.
We need to address that problem now.

[Lariliss]

We are getting more and more exciting news on human achievements going to deep space exploration, challenging science missions to the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury. They are looking into the future and getting more popularity and discussions.
Celebrating all the achievements of 2019 - 2021.

At the same time the climate change subject is an urgent one. It needs fast action on already happened disasters, proactive plans and deeds for the nearest future.
Being so keen to conquer other worlds, shouldn’t we think more about planet Earth?

There are lots of things to do here in key scientific/technological areas: sea bed exploration, efficient land reclaim and use, power sources development.

Intertwine of the Earth and space fields development is one of the key actions done. Space exploration is security from cosmos factors (solar activity, asteroid danger, debris impact).

Satellites surveillance for local ecosystems and data collection for scientific research and fast action, global awareness on local issues, data connection - the more the better - should be in focus to bring valuable results. The page on space exploration science in favor of the Earth tells the story.

There is no good reason to send people into space outside earth orbit.
I predict that in the next 400 years the human race shall not have achieved an independant self sustaining colony anywhere outside earth's orbit.
The elephant in the room, that NASA do not tend to mention is just how hostile it is in space. Beyond earth it is simply too cold. Nearer the sun it is too hot. Venus has a massively dense corosive atmosphere and surface temperatures could easily melt lead. Mercury is a wasteland with no atmosphere.
Mars in the only candidate, but the surface temperature in the middle of summer at the equator at noon only just manages to reach room temperature, for a short while. The trip there is always going to be a 2 year journey, since there is the little problem of the sun being in the way for most of the time. You would have to take EVERYTHING with you.
You only have to consider the technology to have something as simply as a toothbrush to know that a colony is never going to be self sufficient. And the energy required to get there is enourmous, costly more than anything you could earn by going there.
Consider this.
If there was a mountain of gold bars on the Moon, it would not be economically viable to collect them.

Space is full of cosmic radiation. It has not air, no pressure. it is empty, it is dark.
By contrast humans have adapted to live in earth. Earth has everything we need to live. It recycles our very breath, our shit. Food just grows on trees, and walks about on the surface where is can be collected and cooked, with fire supplied by the rich oxygen atmosphere.
Earth has a range of temperatures, where humans have managed to live and thrive. It has rich aquatic resources, most immediately fit for human exploitation and drinking water literally FALLS FROM THE SKY.

There is no where known in the entire universe where any of this is available. And even if it were, it would take more than a life time to get there.

We have one earth and we are not looking after it.
We need to address that problem now.

Exactly, we need to address and address again.
Quoting William Shatner after his flight: there is light and life below and there is darkness and cold above.
Thank you.

[Sculptor]

We are getting more and more exciting news on human achievements going to deep space exploration, challenging science missions to the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury. They are looking into the future and getting more popularity and discussions.
Celebrating all the achievements of 2019 - 2021.

At the same time the climate change subject is an urgent one. It needs fast action on already happened disasters, proactive plans and deeds for the nearest future.
Being so keen to conquer other worlds, shouldn’t we think more about planet Earth?

There are lots of things to do here in key scientific/technological areas: sea bed exploration, efficient land reclaim and use, power sources development.

Intertwine of the Earth and space fields development is one of the key actions done. Space exploration is security from cosmos factors (solar activity, asteroid danger, debris impact).

Satellites surveillance for local ecosystems and data collection for scientific research and fast action, global awareness on local issues, data connection - the more the better - should be in focus to bring valuable results. The page on space exploration science in favor of the Earth tells the story.

There is no good reason to send people into space outside earth orbit.
I predict that in the next 400 years the human race shall not have achieved an independant self sustaining colony anywhere outside earth's orbit.
The elephant in the room, that NASA do not tend to mention is just how hostile it is in space. Beyond earth it is simply too cold. Nearer the sun it is too hot. Venus has a massively dense corosive atmosphere and surface temperatures could easily melt lead. Mercury is a wasteland with no atmosphere.
Mars in the only candidate, but the surface temperature in the middle of summer at the equator at noon only just manages to reach room temperature, for a short while. The trip there is always going to be a 2 year journey, since there is the little problem of the sun being in the way for most of the time. You would have to take EVERYTHING with you.
You only have to consider the technology to have something as simply as a toothbrush to know that a colony is never going to be self sufficient. And the energy required to get there is enourmous, costly more than anything you could earn by going there.
Consider this.
If there was a mountain of gold bars on the Moon, it would not be economically viable to collect them.

Space is full of cosmic radiation. It has not air, no pressure. it is empty, it is dark.
By contrast humans have adapted to live in earth. Earth has everything we need to live. It recycles our very breath, our shit. Food just grows on trees, and walks about on the surface where is can be collected and cooked, with fire supplied by the rich oxygen atmosphere.
Earth has a range of temperatures, where humans have managed to live and thrive. It has rich aquatic resources, most immediately fit for human exploitation and drinking water literally FALLS FROM THE SKY.

There is no where known in the entire universe where any of this is available. And even if it were, it would take more than a life time to get there.

We have one earth and we are not looking after it.
We need to address that problem now.

Exactly, we need to address and address again.
Quoting William Shatner after his flight: there is light and life below and there is darkness and cold above.
Thank you.

What irony.
I'm definitley a Trekky more than a Jedi. I watched Star Trek from the original series to the present. Shatner has a place in my heart.
BUT.
Blue Origin, SpaceX, and Virgin space are nothing more than vanity projects. They offer nothing more that a carbon burning joy ride. They have researched no new technology and rely on research done decades ago by NASA.

They conribute massively to global warming. They are a rich man's toy. Useless

[Skepdick]

They have researched no new technology and rely on research done decades ago by NASA.

They conribute massively to global warming. They are a rich man's toy. Useless

Errr. What?

The Blue Origin rocket doesn't use carbon-based fuels. Its main emmissions are water vapour and a handful of byproducts none of which are carbon dioxide. In what way does it "contribute massively to global warming"?

Both SpaceX and Blue Origin have reusable (self-landing!) primary thrusters! When the fuck did NASA do that?

Far more importantly. WHY would NASA even bother to do that? They weren't spending their own money - cost-optimisation gimmicks like self-landing rockets weren't important to them back then.

[Sculptor]

They have researched no new technology and rely on research done decades ago by NASA.

They conribute massively to global warming. They are a rich man's toy. Useless

Errr. What?

The Blue Origin rocket doesn't use carbon-based fuels. Its main emmissions are water vapour and a handful of byproducts none of which are carbon dioxide. In what way does it "contribute massively to global warming"?

You are shockingly naive. The carbon footprint is huge. Its not just a matter of fuel.

Both SpaceX and Blue Origin have reusable (self-landing!) primary thrusters! When the fuck did NASA do that?

Obviously you never heard of the Space Shuttle - which actually Did Something and Went Somehere.

Far more importantly. WHY would NASA even bother to do that? They weren't spending their own money - cost-optimisation gimmicks like self-landing rockets weren't important to them back then.