Atla wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:39 am
Superdeterminism is the only logical position duh
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:47 pm
Superdeterminism is the same thing as the simulation hypothesis
you're an idiot
So the Big Bang (or something beyond) is sending you hidden messages/instructions to observe the things that you observe and to reach the conclusions that you reach and I am the idiot.
Ah, the Revelation!. You and Immanuel will make great buddies!
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:15 am
I don't know if it's "too speculative," but it has a tendency
to "take mathematics as primary (ontologically)" and then to reify mathematics.
Sorry,
What is "mathematics as primary (ontologically)" ?
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So you didn't answer if you're familiar with the field of ontology. If you are, are you familiar with the notion of ontic simples?
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:05 am
So you didn't answer if you're familiar with the field of ontology. If you are, are you familiar with the notion of ontic simples?
In all my study of ontology, I have never run across that particular phrase, "ontic simples." The closest concept I've encountered in ontology to what that sounds like is some absurd notion called, "ontic vagueness." It sound quite esoteric to me.
Unfortunately, most of what goes by the name ontology today is a hodge-podge of ideas based on quantum physics which have nothing to do with ontology. Ah well!
Atla wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:39 am
Superdeterminism is the only logical position duh
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:47 pm
Superdeterminism is the same thing as the simulation hypothesis
you're an idiot
So the Big Bang (or something beyond) is sending you hidden messages/instructions to observe the things that you observe and to reach the conclusions that you reach and I am the idiot.
Ah, the Revelation!. You and Immanuel will make great buddies!
of course you're the idiot if you thought those are literally messages/instructions
it's just a metaphor for the nonlocal total determinism across the entire history of the universe
Atla wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:26 pm
of course you're the idiot if you thought those are literally messages/instructions
it's just a metaphor for the nonlocal total determinism across the entire history of the universe
So what is the nature/contents of those instructions/messages. What can you tell us about them?
Ontological "total determinism across the entire history..." is the same thing as God
Omnipresence/omniscience/omnipotence.
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Atla wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:26 pm
of course you're the idiot if you thought those are literally messages/instructions
it's just a metaphor for the nonlocal total determinism across the entire history of the universe
So what is the nature/contents of those instructions/messages. What can you tell us about them?
Ontological "total determinism" is the same thing as God
what messages?
it's just a metaphor for the nonlocal total determinism across the entire history of the universe