Aether it exists, or it doesn't.

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Re: Lack of antimatter

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uwot wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:01 am
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 amYou can't believe everything, you can't measure something like that in the laboratory.
Why do you say that?
Physical reality/space is grainy because so far we have only measured discrete values ​​of its electric charge and spin/magnetic momentum…
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Cerveny wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:02 amPhysical reality/space is grainy because so far we have only measured discrete values ​​of its electric charge and spin/magnetic momentum…
Well, we have measured the properties of particles. That's not what I understand you to mean by space being grainy, though.
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uwot wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:58 am
Cerveny wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:02 amPhysical reality/space is grainy because so far we have only measured discrete values ​​of its electric charge and spin/magnetic momentum…
Well, we have measured the properties of particles. That's not what I understand you to mean by space being grainy, though.
We have not seen/measured anything else then particles so far…
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Re: Lack of antimatter

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Cerveny wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:07 pm I assume that antimatter is gravitationally repulsive, so we can not find clusters of antiparticles (antimatter) similar to ordinary matter in the Universe.
What is 'antimatter' even meant to be, EXACTLY?
Cerveny wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:07 pm However, most “unvisible” antiparticles are apparently associated with particles in the “stem-like” (super) particles that form the building "atoms" / "cells" of the aether / physical Space…
What is 'physical space'? And,

What is 'aether'?
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Re: Lack of antimatter

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Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am
uwot wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:37 pm
Cerveny wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:07 pmI assume that antimatter is gravitationally repulsive...
Well, a two second google search would have corrected you: https://www.space.com/matter-antimatter ... to-gravity
You can't believe everything, you can't measure something like that in the laboratory.
I agree. If one can NOT define what some 'thing' is, exactly, then HOW could they ever even measure 'it' [whatever the 'it' is, EXACTLY].
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physicists have lost their sanity.
They are becoming increasingly more STUBBORN in their BELIEFS, and BELIEVING more things, which are NOT even true NOR correct AT ALL.
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physics has been poisoned and paralyzed for a hundred years by Albert Einstein's misunderstanding of space and time, physics has become a faith ...
There is a LOT MORE Truth here then some people would like to admit.
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physical space is grainy and the future has a different structure and content than the past. Quantum mechanics "works" on their thin Planck boundary…
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Age wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:08 am
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am
uwot wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:37 pm Well, a two second google search would have corrected you: https://www.space.com/matter-antimatter ... to-gravity
You can't believe everything, you can't measure something like that in the laboratory.
I agree. If one can NOT define what some 'thing' is, exactly, then HOW could they ever even measure 'it' [whatever the 'it' is, EXACTLY].
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physicists have lost their sanity.
They are becoming increasingly more STUBBORN in their BELIEFS, and BELIEVING more things, which are NOT even true NOR correct AT ALL.
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physics has been poisoned and paralyzed for a hundred years by Albert Einstein's misunderstanding of space and time, physics has become a faith ...
There is a LOT MORE Truth here then some people would like to admit.
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physical space is grainy and the future has a different structure and content than the past. Quantum mechanics "works" on their thin Planck boundary…
Let me please to repeat, Einstein’s GTR is only “Newton” extended by a limited speed of gravity spread, packed into obscure math description. There are missing, at least, attempts of explanation of the reason Why and How the speed of everything is limited, relationship between this limit and the speed and arrow of the time and understanding of the aether and gravitational repulsion/antimatter and understanding of the Future at all…
The most interesting thing is Lorentz’s transformation and followed relation between the mass and energy…
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Re: Lack of antimatter

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Cerveny wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:35 pm
Age wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:08 am
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am

You can't believe everything, you can't measure something like that in the laboratory.
I agree. If one can NOT define what some 'thing' is, exactly, then HOW could they ever even measure 'it' [whatever the 'it' is, EXACTLY].
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physicists have lost their sanity.
They are becoming increasingly more STUBBORN in their BELIEFS, and BELIEVING more things, which are NOT even true NOR correct AT ALL.
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physics has been poisoned and paralyzed for a hundred years by Albert Einstein's misunderstanding of space and time, physics has become a faith ...
There is a LOT MORE Truth here then some people would like to admit.
Cerveny wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 am Physical space is grainy and the future has a different structure and content than the past. Quantum mechanics "works" on their thin Planck boundary…
Let me please to repeat, Einstein’s GTR is only “Newton” extended by a limited speed of gravity spread, packed into obscure math description. There are missing, at least, attempts of explanation of the reason Why and How the speed of everything is limited, relationship between this limit and the speed and arrow of the time and understanding of the aether and gravitational repulsion/antimatter and understanding of the Future at all…
The most interesting thing is Lorentz’s transformation and followed relation between the mass and energy…
And will you attempt to explain WHY you are repeating your view of things here?

Also;

What does 'gravity spread' even mean or refer to, EXACTLY?

'Math descriptions' are purposely made to be SO OBSCURE, because when they, supposedly, 'verify' some 'thing', the 'thing' is usually some 'thing', which was assumed, previously, to be true or is 'needed' in order to 'verify' some OTHER 'thing', which is assumed to be true. Instead of just presenting 'things' in a Truly SIMPLE and EASY manner, 'things' are presented in such OBSCURITY to HIDE the Fact that REALLY those people do NOT have ANY ACTUAL clue NOR idea about what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS, EXACTLY. All this talk of the Universe EXPANDING, or 'gravity SPREADING', is ALL just OBSCURE words and terms to CONCEAL the Fact that these people are STILL living in the DARK AGES. These ones are just 'TRYING TO' 'find' absolutely ANY 'thing' that could and would back up and support what they previously and currently ASSUME and/or BELIEVE is true. Which is solely DEPENDED UPON what they ACCEPT as being 'gospel', from what "others" have SAID and WRITTEN. See, some people SEE "einstein's", "newtown's", or "others'" WORDS, as STRONGLY as some people SEE "jesus's" or 'the bible's" WORDS as being 'gospel'.

These people who used to CLAIM that 'the speed of everything' is limited have CHANGED that view, when it did NOT work in with their view that the Universe is EXPANDING, faster than the speed of light.

HOW and WHY there are symbols representing 'the speed of everything' is 'limited because this equation had to be MADE UP to MAKE ANOTHER 'theory', APPEAR TO, work. Which was also CREATED in order to 'fit in with' ANOTHER 'theory' about 'time', and their understanding of other things.

See, what ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING is;

There once was a 'bang', let us just say about 13.7 billion years ago, from the day that this is being written, for the sake of this discussion. Now this 'bang' MUST OF come from some 'thing' PRIOR, which for all 'we' know could have been absolutely EVERY particle of matter infinitely compressed into just One singular piece of matter. Or, it could have just been ANOTHER piece of infinitely compressed piece or object of matter among MANY other pieces of infinitely compressed particles of matter, of varyingly different sizes. 'Infinitely compressed', just means that there is NO space AT ALL within that one singular piece of matter. You know, like the 'space' within an atom, between and around the sub-atomic particles of matter.

Now, whatever occurs to make an object expand then there obviously HAS TO BE a 'space' around that object for the object to be ABLE TO 'expand'. Which ULTIMATELY and IRREFUTABLY MEANS that there IS 'space' AND 'matter', ALWAYS. As has ALREADY BEEN PROVED True, and can further be PROVED True to those who are NOT YET familiar with this idea. Oh, and by the way, the SIMPLE REASON WHY it is CLAIMED, "But we do NOT ACTUALLY know what was BEFORE that 'bang' IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY we do NOT know this. See, EVERY time some material 'thing' or 'object' EXPLODES or EXPANDS, if there was NO KNOWN comprehension of what that 'thing'/'object' LOOKED LIKE BEFORE, then there is NO way to ACCURATELY put 'it' back together AGAIN, EXACTLY how it was BEFORE. BUT we ALL KNOW, INSTINCTIVELY that there HAS TO BE some 'thing' for AN EXPLOSION or EXPANSION to FIRST OCCUR. But if ANY one WANTS to ASSUME or BELIEVE that absolutely EVERY thing could have come from absolutely NO thing AT ALL, then they are absolutely FREE to do so.

Anyway, if this 'bang' happened, which could just be the result of two objects colliding, or as more and more matter is being added to One singular object of matter that 'it' just started inflating, and/or self-exloding, and EXPANDING. Now, when the 'Universe' word is being defined as; Everything, TOTALITY, ALL-THERE-IS or EVERY thing, then IF there was just One singular piece of infinitely compressed matter, then, OBVIOUSLY, this One piece was infinite itself or of some particular size and surrounded by absolutely NOTHING, or there was just absolutely NOTHING AT ALL, but either way that way, shape, and/or form was just the 'Universe', the way it was, just like the Universe' is, the way it is NOW. That is; just CHANGING in shape and form, CONTINUOUSLY.

Now, the 'Universe' is ALWAYS, FUNDAMENTALLY, made up of 'matter' AND 'space'. So, what this means is at the moment of when this is being written, no matter how far out matter is spread or has expanded, there is ALWAYS an area of 'space' BEYOND or AROUND 'objects' AND 'particles' of 'matter'. And, OBVIOUSLY there is NO limited NOR end to 'space', itself. 'space' just, essentially, being 'the distance' separating 'matter', itself, at the sub-atomic level AND at the classical level. So, no matter what WAY ANY one wants to LOOK AT and SEE the 'Universe', (with the above definition), then what can be CLEARLY SEEN is that the 'Universe' IS INFINITE, spatially, and IS ETERNAL, temprally, and at Its most BASIC and FUNDAMENTALLY level is just made up of the TWO 'things' of 'matter' AND 'space'. The reason 'energy' exists is because when 'matter' interacts with itself it causes friction, which creates an 'energy source', which then this 'reaction' process causing further 'reactions', which creates CHANGE, which is just 'evolution', itself.

When 'matter' is NOT 'interacting', NOR 'reacting', with itself, then it is just moving about, or floating, absolutely FREELY, and NOT 'creating' ANY thing. But because it is 'moving' or 'in motion' from a previous 'action', or 're-action', then they are either moving AWAY from each other or moving TOWARDS each other. When 'matter' has 'mass' there is an 'attraction' process that naturally occurs, and it is this 'attraction', which causes 'gravity'. The word 'gravity' just refers to the process of 'matter' with more mass just 'attracting' or 'pulling towards' it 'matter' with less mass. From the time of that 'bang', when that piece of 'matter' inflated, exploded, or expanded, APART, creating 'distances', or 'space' between and/or around 'them', then 'EXPANSION' continues UNTIL objects of greater mass start drawing other pieces/objects of matter towards it. Now, because objects, themselves, are moving completely FREELY, with 'space' around them, (until they interact or react with other matter), a 'spin' can begin, and with this 'spin', WITH the 'north' and 'south' poles, or the 'positve' and 'negative' fields of magnetism, objects form or create a 'magnetic energy'. It is this magnetic 'engergy' or 'force', which is what KEEPS objects in their 'relative distance' and 'spin' around each. The 'attraction' and 'repeling' 'magnetic energy force' KEEPING 'things' in relative uniformity or equilibrium. 'Gravity' just being 'attraction' and 'expansion' just be 'repeling'. The reason more 'red shift' 'further away' is SEEN is just because what is being LOOKED AT, is just FURTHER BACK 'time wise', WHERE EXPANSION would OBVIOUSLY be greater than it is NOW, at ANY other 'time' AFTER.

The reason it is said that there was NO 'time' BEFORE, or up until, the 'big bang' inflation is just because if there was just SINGULARITY, or just One singular piece of matter, then there could NOT be what the word 'time' means or refers to, EXACTLY.

What is generally referred to as 'time', is ACTUALLY measured by, or just in relation to, 'light' ONLY. The measuring of 'light', or maybe more correctly, 'the SHADOW of light' is how and when what is generally known as 'time' began, and all what are known as 'time measuring devices' were in correlation of 'light' alone. But what the word 'time' can actually mean and refer to, EXACTLY, is just the measuring between two, perceived, events, and it is the CHANGE between two, perceived, events what the word 'time' is ALWAYS in relation to, EXACTLY. Now, if there was ONLY SINGULARITY prior to what is called 'the big bang', then because just ONE 'thing' ALONE can NOT change, then there WAS NO such thing as what is called 'time' when the Universe, Itself, was in that shape and form.
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The only question is whether the "crystal" of the growing/condensing/crystallizing Past/Histoty (of physical space/ether/vacuum) is composed of ordinary elementary particles (electron/positron lattice? - "Epola"?) or some "stem" elementary particles (Higgs?)…
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We are living on the 3-D surface of condensing 4-D Past, in quantum World. Every interaction (“measurement”) glues / fixes next Planck’s time layer / sediment to the Past. This is how the Universe / the Past grows. The favor of the Life brings us the touch / essence of the Future, essance of empire of ideas… 🍺
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Cerveny wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:27 pm The only question is whether the "crystal" of the growing/condensing/crystallizing Past/Histoty (of physical space/ether/vacuum) is composed of ordinary elementary particles (electron/positron lattice? - "Epola"?) or some "stem" elementary particles (Higgs?)…
But the past/history is not growing, condensing, nor crystallizing.

And, there is obviously a distance between matter, which must consist of no matter.

This can not be refuted.
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Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:32 pm We are living on the 3-D surface of condensing 4-D Past, in quantum World. Every interaction (“measurement”) glues / fixes next Planck’s time layer / sediment to the Past. This is how the Universe / the Past grows. The favor of the Life brings us the touch / essence of the Future, essance of empire of ideas… 🍺
But the Universe, Itself, is not growing, and could never 'grow'.
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Age wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:25 pm
Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:32 pm We are living on the 3-D surface of condensing 4-D Past, in quantum World. Every interaction (“measurement”) glues / fixes next Planck’s time layer / sediment to the Past. This is how the Universe / the Past grows. The favor of the Life brings us the touch / essence of the Future, essance of empire of ideas… 🍺
But the Universe, Itself, is not growing, and could never 'grow'.
Do you believe that it (eg atoms) expands? How is the current "space" different from, say, five billion years old? Another speed of light?
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Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:03 pm
Age wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:25 pm
Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:32 pm We are living on the 3-D surface of condensing 4-D Past, in quantum World. Every interaction (“measurement”) glues / fixes next Planck’s time layer / sediment to the Past. This is how the Universe / the Past grows. The favor of the Life brings us the touch / essence of the Future, essance of empire of ideas… 🍺
But the Universe, Itself, is not growing, and could never 'grow'.
Do you believe that it (eg atoms) expands?
No.
Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:03 pm How is the current "space" different from, say, five billion years old?
It is not different, in definition.

It is different, in that it is always constantly changing.
Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:03 pm Another speed of light?
Moot.
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Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:32 pm We are living on the 3-D surface of condensing 4-D Past, in quantum World. Every interaction (“measurement”) glues / fixes next Planck’s time layer / sediment to the Past. This is how the Universe / the Past grows. The favor of the Life brings us the touch / essence of the Future, essance of empire of ideas… 🍺
The essence, meaning and vector of Life is intrinsically connected with the future, and life rises mysteriously into the future, into the realm of order, structures, ideas, with it the divine spirit enjoys its pleasure (intuition:)... 🍻
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Cerveny wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:32 pm We are living on the 3-D surface of condensing 4-D Past, in quantum World. Every interaction (“measurement”) glues / fixes next Planck’s time layer / sediment to the Past. This is how the Universe / the Past grows. The favor of the Life brings us the touch / essence of the Future, essance of empire of ideas… 🍺
Quantum interaction/"measurement" is essentially similar to human "measurement" - in order to express/pronounce some belief/evaluation, our relation/attitude to reality, we have to use some discrete/established terms/words. At the same time, such "measurement" fixes/consolidates us in the context of reality...
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