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Re: Change cannot happen at now

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bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:40 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:52 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:39 pm
We are interacting minds.
So, when you say; "Language is circular but we comprehend it since its roots are in objective reality."

Then, do you really mean; Language is circular but we comprehend it since its roots are in objective we are interacting minds.
Interacting minds follow from the fact that a mind is needed for a coherent change.
What do 'you' mean by 'coherent change'?
bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:40 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm And, is what you said here the ONLY reality to you?
There could be all sorts of other realities. The whole is boundless.
So, REALLY you were NOT being forthcoming and thus Truly Honest, correct?
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Re: Change cannot happen at now

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Age wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:40 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:52 pm
So, when you say; "Language is circular but we comprehend it since its roots are in objective reality."

Then, do you really mean; Language is circular but we comprehend it since its roots are in objective we are interacting minds.
Interacting minds follow from the fact that a mind is needed for a coherent change.
What do 'you' mean by 'coherent change'?
Like a thought.
Age wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:40 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm And, is what you said here the ONLY reality to you?
There could be all sorts of other realities. The whole is boundless.
So, REALLY you were NOT being forthcoming and thus Truly Honest, correct?
I am very honest.
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bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:28 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:40 pm
Interacting minds follow from the fact that a mind is needed for a coherent change.
What do 'you' mean by 'coherent change'?
Like a thought.
So, are you saying that a "mind" is needed for a 'thought change' or for a 'change of thought'?
bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:28 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:40 pm
There could be all sorts of other realities. The whole is boundless.
So, REALLY you were NOT being forthcoming and thus Truly Honest, correct?
I am very honest.
Okay. Is this a Truly Honest answer?
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Re: Change cannot happen at now

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Age wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:31 am
bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:28 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 am

What do 'you' mean by 'coherent change'?
Like a thought.
So, are you saying that a "mind" is needed for a 'thought change' or for a 'change of thought'?
The thought is created by the mind. It is the result of the mind's activity on the memory which is stored in physical.
Age wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:31 am
bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:28 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 am
So, REALLY you were NOT being forthcoming and thus Truly Honest, correct?
I am very honest.
Okay. Is this a Truly Honest answer?
Sure yes.
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bahman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:31 am
bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:28 pm
Like a thought.
So, are you saying that a "mind" is needed for a 'thought change' or for a 'change of thought'?
The thought is created by the mind.
You are aware correct that you HAVE TO be able to PROVE some 'thing' BEFORE some will just accept it as being true?

What proof do you ACTUALLY HAVE that:
1. There is the "mind"?
2. Thought is created by the "mind"?
bahman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm It is the result of the mind's activity on the memory which is stored in physical.
Are you at all able to EXPLAIN HOW some, so called, "mind's activity" causes and creates thoughts?

If yes, then will you?
bahman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:31 am
bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:28 pm
I am very honest.
Okay. Is this a Truly Honest answer?
Sure yes.
Does "very honest" mean that 'you' are sometimes DISHONEST?
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Re: Change cannot happen at now

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Age wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:38 am
bahman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:31 am
So, are you saying that a "mind" is needed for a 'thought change' or for a 'change of thought'?
The thought is created by the mind.
You are aware correct that you HAVE TO be able to PROVE some 'thing' BEFORE some will just accept it as being true?

What proof do you ACTUALLY HAVE that:
1. There is the "mind"?
I have an argument in favor of mind here.
Age wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:38 am 2. Thought is created by the "mind"?
P1) Any change requires a mind (previous argument)
P2) The thought is a change (not know to know)
C) Therefore the mind is the cause of thought
Age wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:38 am
bahman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm It is the result of the mind's activity on the memory which is stored in physical.
Are you at all able to EXPLAIN HOW some, so called, "mind's activity" causes and creates thoughts?

If yes, then will you?
This is off topic. But I will open a thread on this topic shortly.
Age wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:38 am
bahman wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:31 am Okay. Is this a Truly Honest answer?
Sure yes.
Does "very honest" mean that 'you' are sometimes DISHONEST?
No.
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