There are at least two times
There are at least two times
Time is subjected to change. Any change requires time. This is a regress unless there are at least two times each time sustain another one. 1 sustains 2 and 2 sustains 1.
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Software engineers are accustomed to thinking in 2nd order time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(Uni ... ystem_time
https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Supp ... SystemTime
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That is conventional time. I am talking about physical times.Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:56 pmSoftware engineers are accustomed to thinking in 2nd order time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(Uni ... ystem_time
https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Supp ... SystemTime
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I think your time refers to the convention made by human about the passage of physical time. Physical time requires for any physical change though.
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It doesn't matter. Talking about change in the language of mathematics leads to discussing calculus and continuities and you have yourself a digital-or-discrete dualism on your hands.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/does-tim ... -20200407/
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There is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
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Change cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pmThere is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
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Yes, time is so-called; it is a human concept, a human construct, not a real thing. What we’re dealing with is variable space.bahman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:30 pmChange cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pmThere is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
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No. Time according to general relativity is a substance. It bents.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:37 pmYes, time is so-called; it is a human concept, a human construct, not a real thing. What we’re dealing with is variable space.bahman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:30 pmChange cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pm
There is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
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No. Time according to general relativity is a substance. It bents.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:37 pmYes, time is so-called; it is a human concept, a human construct, not a real thing. What we’re dealing with is variable space.bahman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:30 pmChange cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pm
There is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
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There are not two times. The mistake is to imagine change and the things that change are truly real. This leads us to reify time and space.
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There is at most one time, per reasons already given.
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There is a progression that goes next to next to next...........................
Time is a function. It goes from the current state to the next state to the next state ......... and on and on.
There are many times.
Time never reverses.
Time is a function. It goes from the current state to the next state to the next state ......... and on and on.
There are many times.
Time never reverses.