There are at least two times
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:05 pm
Time is subjected to change. Any change requires time. This is a regress unless there are at least two times each time sustain another one. 1 sustains 2 and 2 sustains 1.
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Software engineers are accustomed to thinking in 2nd order time.
That is conventional time. I am talking about physical times.Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:56 pmSoftware engineers are accustomed to thinking in 2nd order time.
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I think your time refers to the convention made by human about the passage of physical time. Physical time requires for any physical change though.
It doesn't matter. Talking about change in the language of mathematics leads to discussing calculus and continuities and you have yourself a digital-or-discrete dualism on your hands.
There is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
Change cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pmThere is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
Yes, time is so-called; it is a human concept, a human construct, not a real thing. What we’re dealing with is variable space.bahman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:30 pmChange cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pmThere is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
No. Time according to general relativity is a substance. It bents.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:37 pmYes, time is so-called; it is a human concept, a human construct, not a real thing. What we’re dealing with is variable space.bahman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:30 pmChange cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pm
There is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.
No. Time according to general relativity is a substance. It bents.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:37 pmYes, time is so-called; it is a human concept, a human construct, not a real thing. What we’re dealing with is variable space.bahman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:30 pmChange cannot happen at one point. Think of a change, X to Y. X and Y must lay on two different points one comes another one. This means that we are dealing with variable so-called time.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pm
There is only one time: now. The past is a memory. The future is an expectation. Change happens now.