Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:29 pm
The fact that you conceptualise them as "immaterial" is just language playing tricks on you.
You don't have to conceptualise pain to know you are in pain.
What we conceptualise is the material world. We have the concept of a tree and think of it as material. We don't experience the tree itself. We only experience our perception of whatever looks to us as a tree.
The idea that the mind is immaterial is a direct consequence of our conception of the material world as material. We have realised that our mind isn't the same thing as what we call the material world. There is nothing in the material world we can recognise as the pain we experience.
Scientists themselves don't study pain as we experience it, they study the objective correlates of pain.
Whether the material world is of the same nature as our mind remains to be seen. We just don't know yet.
And that is common knowledge. To go beyond that is just ideological dogma.
EB