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  Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
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1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law this molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
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“ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? “
/ Paul Dirac /
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“The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!”
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
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Book: The Fermi Solution,
''. . . : something seems wrong with our idea of the vacuum.
It is we who abhor a vacuum, who recoil from the stillness
of the void as from an open grave.''
/ by Hans Christian von Baeyer, page 37-38. /
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socrat44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:51 pm “ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? “
/ Paul Dirac /
#
...
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Don't mind, substantial is, that we understand the black holes.

zero vacuum doesn't suck...

-Imp

socrat44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:19 am   Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
===
1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law this molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
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1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)
2 - Einstein's SRT postulate has reference frame
of vacuum and therefore speed is ( c=1)
3 - Theory of Ideal gas has reference frame of vacuum
but theoretical quantum physics  ignores this framework.
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socrat44 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:26 pm

socrat44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:19 am   Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
===
1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law this molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
=======

1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)
2 - Einstein's SRT postulate has reference frame
of vacuum and therefore speed is ( c=1)
3 - Theory of Ideal gas has reference frame of vacuum
but theoretical quantum physics  ignores this framework.
========

The theory of ideal gas is not an ''abstract theory'' or
only ''useful as a simple approximation''
It is useful as Real theory about situation in the Vacuum.
The quantum particles have their source in the Vacuum.
The real particles appear from Vacuum.
(Casimir effect, Lamb shift, vacuum's fluctuation . . ..etc)
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To understand itself, Quantum physics must be united
with Thermodynamics of Ideal gas
(this is a missed idea in modern physics)
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socrat44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:19 am   Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
===
1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law this molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
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?????? above my head - though have some education of............

your point?

socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:13 am

socrat44 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:26 pm

socrat44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:19 am   Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
===
1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law this molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
=======

1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)
2 - Einstein's SRT postulate has reference frame
of vacuum and therefore speed is ( c=1)
3 - Theory of Ideal gas has reference frame of vacuum
but theoretical quantum physics  ignores this framework.
========

The theory of ideal gas is not an ''abstract theory'' or
only ''useful as a simple approximation''
It is useful as Real theory about situation in the Vacuum.
The quantum particles have their source in the Vacuum.
The real particles appear from Vacuum.
(Casimir effect, Lamb shift, vacuum's fluctuation . . ..etc)
#
To understand itself, Quantum physics must be united
with Thermodynamics of Ideal gas
(this is a missed idea in modern physics)
========
the missing puzzle.jpg

maybe you know something other than word salad?

welcome more from you Sir.

no, no unified theory yet 60 yrs and counting.

I can see the empty physical space as a 4D crystal (growing along time axe) of stem (aether) particles that can decay to eg positron/electron pairs. The corresponding lattice constant is just Planck's time.... Is it possible then to change history by extreme pressure?

Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:41 pm I can see the empty physical space as a 4D crystal (growing along time axe) of stem (aether) particles that can decay to eg positron/electron pairs... It means that Now is the 3D surface of the past...
Is it possible then to change history by extreme pressure?

Maybe it is possible to forge empty space from the mass (forging pushes out structural defects - eg dislocations). Perhaps it is related with black holes evaporation or galactic jets?... (Let me to remind, please, that I see elementary particles as structural defects in physical empty space...)

Cerveny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:37 pm

Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:41 pm I can see the empty physical space as a 4D crystal (growing along time axe) of stem (aether) particles that can decay to eg positron/electron pairs... It means that Now is the 3D surface of the past...
Is it possible then to change history by extreme pressure?

Maybe it is possible to forge empty space from the mass (forging pushes out structural defects - eg dislocations). Perhaps it is related with black holes evaporation or galactic jets?... (Let me to remind, please, that I see elementary particles as structural defects in physical empty space...)

Recrystallization of physical space can take place inside "black holes" ... ;)

gaffo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:43 am

socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:13 am

socrat44 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:26 pm
1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)
2 - Einstein's SRT postulate has reference frame
of vacuum and therefore speed is ( c=1)
3 - Theory of Ideal gas has reference frame of vacuum
but theoretical quantum physics  ignores this framework.
========

The theory of ideal gas is not an ''abstract theory'' or
only ''useful as a simple approximation''
It is useful as Real theory about situation in the Vacuum.
The quantum particles have their source in the Vacuum.
The real particles appear from Vacuum.
(Casimir effect, Lamb shift, vacuum's fluctuation . . ..etc)
#
To understand itself, Quantum physics must be united
with Thermodynamics of Ideal gas
(this is a missed idea in modern physics)
========
the missing puzzle.jpg

maybe you know something other than word salad?

welcome more from you Sir.

no, no unified theory yet 60 yrs and counting.

Scientific definition.
The definition in classical physics is different from the definition in quantum physics.
Classical physics --- Quantum physics
1) particle ----- similar particle
2) wave ----- similar wave
3) momentum ----- similar rotation
4) shape ----- point
5) time ---- time space
6) space ---- space-time
7) determinism --- HUP
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This difference makes it difficult to understand physical reality.

I agree with "your point?"

I don't get what the gist of this thread is. You don't seem to either be making a statement about anything or asking a question about anything. It seems like you're just rattling off various terse ideas.

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Scientific definition.
The definition in classical physics is different from the definition in quantum physics.
Classical physics --- Quantum physics
1) particle ----- similar particle
2) wave ----- similar wave
3) momentum ----- similar rotation
4) shape ----- point
5) time ---- time space
6) space ---- space-time
7) determinism --- HUP
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This difference makes it difficult to understand physical reality.
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By idea, a good scientific theory must have three ingredients: stuff, arena, a set of physics laws.
In quantum theory the three ingredients look strange:
the stuff is ‘’like-seems-particles’’ which have ''like-seems-spin'' and
‘’like-seems-waves’’ which ''seems-collapse '' . . .
the arena is very famous but really unknown arena of ''an absolute four-dimensional spacetime''
. . . and essences of quantum laws have probability basis.
Under these circumstances we are chess players who attempt to play an imaginary game
on the imaginary checkerboard of world. Therefore somebody wrote:
‘’Philosophy of quantum physics is certainly not the place where logic lives.’’
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So basically the idea of the thread is simply skepticism about the veracity of quantum physics interpretations?