seeds wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:48 pm
Also, while we’re at it, you said the following about my OP:
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:09 am
This is like asking if people's appreciation of the Mona Lisa has something to do with the chemical bonding of titanium lead and linseed oil.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:20 pm
In reponse to “.is it possible that the greater the volume and complexity of the entangled morass of quantum waves that comprise a planet’s overall wavefunction is what determines the strength
of that which we call a planet’s gravity?”
The reason I said that is that the strength of a "planet's gravity" is exactly determined by what can be directly observed, not by any minute details of physical properties.
The "strength" of gravity of a planet is EXACTLY determined by its mass. It is that simple.
In fact, in a very significant way the gravity of any object is its mass.
Again, keeping in mind that this is all just pure speculation on my part,...
...let me respond to that by creating a little thought experiment using my hologram illustration...
First of all, because this thought experiment applies to certain quantum theories that suggest that consciousness may be involved in the collapse of the wavefunction,...
...then you have to imagine that the laser represents your own consciousness, and that the photographic plate represents the quantum realm (which is something that you cannot “directly observe”).
Now imagine shrinking yourself down to the point where you could stand on the die and it would appear to you as being as big as the earth.
In which case, other than your own body, the only things that you could “directly observe” would be the surface of the die, along with the key and the paperclip floating around in the outer space of this strange reality.
Next, imagine that the earth-sized die, and the moon-like key, and the asteroid-like paperclip had their own varying degrees of mass and gravity.
Now the point is that even though you can “directly observe” your own body, along with these three other separate (3-D) objects suspended in the spatial arena of this fanciful thought experiment,...
...it does not change the fact that it is the correlated patterns of information in the photographic plate that determines the unique characteristics and properties of the four objects.
And the further point is that if you were to completely remove your consciousness from this scenario...
(like switching off the laser)
...then all four objects...
(again, your body, die, key, and paperclip)
...would no longer appear as separate (3-D) phenomena suspended in a spatial arena, but would only exist in the (2-D) context of the patterns of information in the plate where they are no longer separate from each other (at least not in the same way they are separate from each other in their explicated forms).
Now as all of this is just a metaphor for the workings of the universe itself, then the ultimate question is: where is gravity and mass located in this deeper context of information if not simply being an aspect of the coding in the underlying script of reality?
Again, everyone needs to stop visualizing the question of gravity from the limited and “superficial” perspective of Bohm’s “Explicate Order” and, instead, try to immerse your mind in the deeper and more primal realm of Bohm’s “Implicate Order.”