surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:57 am
The clock would stop because any thing travelling at the speed of light cannot experience time which is why
photons or any massless particles are timeless otherwise they would not be able to travel as fast as they can
Is this what you are saying,
Photons or any mass less particles are timeless, because, no thing travelling at the speed of light can experience?
The clock would stop, because, no thing can experience time when travelling at the speed of light?
If photons and any mass less particles were not timeless, then that means they would not be able to travel as fast as they can?
To Me, a clock does NOT "experience" travelling nor time. Only sentient able beings can experience
any thing. Do you really think that a clock would stop, when it is travelling at the speed of light, because it can not experience time?
To Me, a clock "ticks" at a certain, human being, programmed rate of change. Do you think the clock changes this rate of change itself to correspond with whatever speed it is going, or do you think the rate of change is changed by the speed the clock is going?
If it is the latter, then HOW exactly is speed, itself, able to infiltrate the programmed rate of change and manipulate that to what it wants to.
My whole point is in showing that IFit takes 3 years to travel the distance of 3 light years at the speed of light, then WHY does that mean TIME, ITSELF, would supposedly stop? Do people only THINK this because they have read it some where before, or is there any actual evidence for this being even possible?
Like I have asked before time might APPEAR to stop, to some human beings, but HOW could "time" actually stop?
Saying, "Time stops, at the speed of light", is about as ridiculous to Me as saying, "In the beginning", in relation to the Universe. Priests and scientists alike seem to believe whatever they read in a book, of choosing, for them. And, when asked to elaborate on what they are saying, then out comes some convenient other supposed "truth".
To Me, photons are able to travel as fast as they can, because, photons are in a sense light, itself, so photons obviously travel at the speed of which they, or light, travels.
Photons, may appear, to some, as timeless but this is because they are travelling at the same rate that which "time" is measured by, which is the speed of light.
Clocks do NOT experience time so that is NOT why a clock would stop at the speed of light.
A clock would NOT stop, travelling at the speed of light, just like a human being would NOT stop ageing travelling at the speed of light. If some thing starts from relatively zero rest, then travels up to and at the speed of light, and then moves back to relatively zero rest, then that clock just like a human being still takes a certain amount of 'time' to travel whatever distance they did. The time it takes to travel the distance, they do, determines elapsed time, which as far as I observe obviously does not stop.
As I have previously stated if a human being travels at the speed of light starting from Planet 1 P1 and stops at Planet 2 P2, which is 4 light years away, then from other human beings perspective at the starting point and at the final destination, it may appear as though time stopped and the travelling human being arrived instantly, but this optical illusion is only because of the time it takes light to travel. Time, itself, obviously did not stop, things still went on as usual. The travelling human being still took some time to arrive at the destination, 4 years time to be exact. This paradox can easily be observed from Planet 3, which let us say is in a equilateral triangular distance between and/or from P1 and P2. From this Planet's perspective and from what a human being on this Planet observes is the travelling human being taking 4 years to travel from P1 to P2. Time did NOT stop at all from the point of view of this observer.
Every thing is relative to the observer.
To Me, travelling at the speed of light from P1 to P2 the rate of change keeps elapsing at the same rate as what is generally known as "time" does. Time does NOT stop and I have not yet observed how time could stop.
In fact, to Me, there is no such things as time, but that is another issue.