Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am
ken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
Why not try showing some examples AND allowing Me to respond, and then you can respond back?
I have.
Again, you saying, "I have", instead of just doing.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
I ACKNOWLEDGE and RECOGNIZE what you see
No you don't.
Sorry, I should have added "some times" to make the sentence MORE correct. That was absolutely all My fault for being so careless in NOT making things absolutely clear.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
There is NO such thing as a closed Mind, but you are a long way from discovering and/or learning this just yet.
Your assumption.
What was my assumption?
Do you already KNOW that there is NO such thing as a 'closed, nor an open, mind'?
If yes, then that was an assumption of mine, which I acknowledge was completely WRONG.
If no, then what was My assumption that you are seeing here?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am You make a lot of them, while accusing others of doing it.
Is there any person who does NOT make assumptions?
I have NEVER said that I do not make assumptions. I said, I do not like to make assumptions.
Also, you might be seeing a lot more assumptions than there actually is. Is that a possibility?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
just clarifying with Me about what I write or just concentrating on exposing your perceived contradictions and inconsistencies in what I write?
Tried that... over and over.
If you say so. But some sort of evidence would support what you say here better.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
WHY not just discuss what I write about instead of concentrating on what might or might not be happening? ?
Done that too many times to count.
Again, if you say so, then it MUST be true and correct, right?
As I have previously stated, if you just copy and paste the actual contention, then you can prove your point. I also would be given a chance to have a say in it.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
HOW do you KNOW how much I am listening to and seeing or not?
I say the things I do to you based on me being an observant person, and having observed your words and interactions with myself and others over a long period of time.
Have you ever considered that every thing could be relative to the observer (an observant person) AND the observer may NOT actually be seeing things HOW THEY EXACTLY ARE?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am Others are telling you similar things at times.
Yes that IS true, at times.
Does the more that say the same, or similar, things, at times, make the thing more true, more right, or more accurate?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amWe're not all clueless about you
From what I have observed that could be very easily disputed.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am-- we're reflecting things that many eyes are seeing, and many minds are understanding.
What people see can be a distortion, or a complete block, of what IS true and real.
'Reflection', in and of itself, does NOT make any thing more true. Many reflecting also does NOT make any thing more true. For example many were reflecting that many eyes are seeing the sun revolve around the earth, and many (what are called) "minds" are understanding that this must be the truth. But does the sun revolve around the earth?
Also, are there actually MANY 'minds'?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am This isn't all about YOU SHOWING US stuff!
Depending on what you mean by "This" I might totally agree that "This is NOT all about Me showing YOU stuff". I am here in this forum to learn how to better explain HOW YOU can observe, and see (understand), 'stuff' all by your own self, which is actually
what IS.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am That would make no sense.
Why not?
Is this all about you showing us stuff? Or, is this about all of us all showing each other stuff?
To you, what is "this" all about? What would make sense in regards to what you are referring to here?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am But it seems to make sense to someone who is wrapped up in their separatist ego without realizing it.
I have already explain HOW and WHY there is One who is completely entitled to be an Ego. But that 'Ego' is probably nothing like the one you keep talking about here in this forum.
By the way, what "seems", or APPEARS, to you to be happening here may NOT be
what IS actually happening.
To Me, you seem to really enjoy expressing what another seems to be doing, but not really giving the other a chance to respond fully. If you do NOT provide the actual writings of others, which led you to the conclusions that you came to, then they are NOT able to provide the reasoning behind WHY they wrote "that" what they did.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
What is the disconnected avoidance game and how is it played?
How do you think it is played?
I have not considered it yet, to give an answer. The first time I have heard of it is when YOU wrote it. If you do NOT like to answer the clarifying question, then so be it. When, and if, you do, then I am better prepared to provide an answer.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am Do you think it is beyond you?
How could I think 'some thing' is beyond Me if I do NOT know what 'it' actually is?
This would be, for example, like you wanting Me to answer the question "Do you think God is real?" When, and IF, you NEVER clarify what the 'God' is that you are actually referring to. How could I give an accurate answer, IF I do NOT know what you are talking about. ONLY if you clarify the question, then I can answer it properly?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 amken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
I laugh at how stupid i and other human beings really are, and can be, probably far more than you ever have or will.
Another assumption you're making.
Does it really matter if I make an assumption about what I probably do more than you do?
If I laugh at how stupid we, human beings, really are more than you do or not, then is that going to lead to any distorted or unclear view of things?
In fact, the truth of this could easily be found through a clarifying question.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am I laugh at just about everything.
Do you really laugh at "just about everything"?
How much of "everything" is "just about" relative to?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am I don't frame it as "humans being stupid" though -- I think more in terms of blindly flailing with certainty.
Why do you NOT frame it as "humans being stupid"?
How much do you really laugh at how
stupid YOU, and other human beings, actually are?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am ken wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:18 am
By the way was there one actual point you made about some thing I have wrote
Done it many times... tired of doing it... seems like pointless effort.
WHY does it seem like a pointless effort, to you?
I would find if extremely meaningful and very refreshing if you could explain one actual point about what you say in "dispute" of what I wrote, instead of YOU just looking at the person, which was WHAT MY sentence was actually responding to. Cutting My sentences short in order to show some thing other than what was the actual context that I was referring to, does NOT help you, which by the way you have done a couple of times already.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 am More interesting now to ask you what the fuck you're doing?
Learning how to communicate better, AND, using the human beings of "today", through this forum, to show with evidence "future" peoples what I want to say about HOW the Mind and the brain works.
What are you doing?