THE SCIENTIFIC GOD. /by Socratus/

How does science work? And what's all this about quantum mechanics?

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Post by socratus » Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:23 am

Book: The quantum self
It might even give us some ground to speculate that
the vacuum itself (and hence the universe) is ‘conscious.
/ page 208. by Danah Zohar. /
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If we were looking for something that we could conceive
of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.
/ Book: ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. by Danah Zohar. /

The Danah Zohar arguments are following.
1
The vacuum is the basic, fundamental and underlying reality of which
everything in the universe – including ourselves – is an expression.
2.
Vacuum is not empty. Vacuum is full with virtual antiparticles.
These virtual energy-antiparticles are in potential conditions.
But after their process of fluctuations they appear as real particles.
3.
Futher, excitations ( fluctuations) of this coherent vacuum
condensate appear to have the same mathematics as the
excitations of our own, Frohlich-style Bose - Einstein condensate.
Understanding this might well lead us to conclude that the physics
which gives us human consciousness is one of the basic
potentialities within the quantum vacuum, the fundament of all reality.
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. By Danah Zohar /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danah_Zohar
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My opinion.
a) Grand Creator exist in the reference frame of infinite eternal
continuum T=0K (neither time nor space . . . more correct:
neither gravity-time nor gravity-space)
b) Grand Designer created the gravity-time and gravity-space
in which we live now.
c) the problem is that Stephen Hawking and his colleagues
don’t accept the concept of the “ PHYSICAL INFINITY”.
They try to run away from “INFINITY” with all their power
and therefor they say “ Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is
no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions
to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge,
so looking for it is a futile exercise.” - Hawking
d) in the infinite eternal continuum T=0K the Grand Designer
created the MATERIAL UNIVERSE.
e) don’t know what T=0K is scientists call it “NOTHIGNESS”
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The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex?
/ Paul Dirac /
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Re: THE SCIENTIFIC GOD. /by Socratus/

Post by Belinda » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:32 am

That there is something rather than nothing amounts to more than the material something of the Universe and the subatomic reality. Something rather than nothing amounts to more than the very small and the very enormous.

What more that something rather than nothing amounts to besides the material is the mental, the subjective. Taken together as they should be the mental and the material are something not nothing. The fact that you are reading this is something not nothing.

The bare fact that there is something is God- the -Creator.

The benevolence of the something, the creator, is what is our human responsibility to make manifest.

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Post by Cerveny » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:20 pm

There are two creators - the mother (matter/energy) that lives in the History and the father (ideas) that lives in the Future. Their child - the God / the Nature lives in the present (the quantum border between Future and History) and all live creatures are its children:) When they lost the connection with the future (consciousness), they die:( Living things are maintained by the "wireless", resonant charging of the living energy (chita elements) from the Future; God is still working on it (the evolution)
Socratus, for understanding, please, use the bottle...
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Post by socratus » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:58 am

Infinity, nothingness, time, elementary particles were objects
of primal perception. They were described in different ancient
books . . . for example Vedas . . . . . purusha and pracriti . . .
. . . Hermetic Principles . . .

Later these objects became objects of science.
The science has own language and these ‘old ancient things' scientists
try to describe by their language. This language is mathematical.

So, ancient books and scientific theories tried to describe one and the
same things (quantum things), infinity, nothingness-vacuum from
different points of view.
Our ancestor and modern scientists tried to understand one and the
same basis of existence and the break between them only it the way
that they have chosen.
Science can only logical (using formulas, equations, laws) explain
the ideas of ancient people.
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Even an omnipotent God could not create a square circle
or make 2 plus 3 equal five . . . because . . . His work is limited
by the laws of Physics. And as wise as every wise man
God wouldn't “make a stone so heavy He couldn't lift”.

This is the reason that we can understand Him logically.
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Post by Belinda » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:20 pm

Cerveny wrote:There are two creators - the mother (matter/energy) that lives in the History and the father (idea) that lives in the Future. Their child - the God lives in the present (the quantum border between Future and History) and all live creatures are its children:) (Socratus,) For understanding use please the bottle...
I appreciate the mother and the father analogies. However I do think it's needful to also appreciate that the father analogue is our own human efforts .

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Post by Cerveny » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:30 pm

Cerveny wrote:There are two creators - the mother (matter/energy) that lives in the History and the father (idea) that lives in the Future. Their child - the God lives in the present (the quantum border between Future and History) and all live creatures are its children:) (Socratus,) For understanding use please the bottle...
All live creatures share the same base/background out of themselves, overcome themselves. Some people/animals/trees/... are able to find it and enjoy it.
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