String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

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String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by socratus » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:19 pm

String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D
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Today some famous physicists think that “string particle”
can be a primary particle of nature and “string theory” can offer
a new description of nature. But to observe “string-particle”
would require a LHC roughly the size of the solar system.
Obviously that such solar- LHC cannot be created today, but . . . .
. . . but in the future . . . . in future . . . vivat solar-LHC.
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Not scientific joke.
A little boy was asked what he wants.
The boy answered: I want the Moon as big as the Sun,
then I will not afraid of darkness.

Scientific no- joke.
A young scientist was asked what he wants.
The young scientist answered: I want a LHC roughly the size
of the solar system then the „ string particle“ will be observed and then
I will exactly know in which dimension I live , in 11-D or i n 27-D
or , maybe, in the middle between them, (M-string theory).
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Re: String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by socratus » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:38 am

April 7, 2016 12:00 pm JST
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Superstring theory is inspiring practical applications
http://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/2016040 ... plications
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The post doesn’t have examples of “string’s” practical/experimental applications.
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Experiment and mathematical analysis, taken together, they are serving
as the backbone of science. Experiment without mathematical analysis
is unclear, and mathematical analysis without experimental support is
only mathematical play.
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“Without a direct test for string theory, skeptics argue,
it should be classified as mathematics rather than physics . . . .”
/ Dan Falk /
“I don’t think it’s physics yet. It’s beautiful mathematics,
which has a chance of becoming physics”
/ Glenn Starkman /
“String theory says nothing about the real world”
/ Sheldon Glashow”
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Re: String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by socratus » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:40 am

“String” doesn’t have practical applications / observation and therefore
it is only a pure “ beautiful mathematics”. String theory has only MATHEMATICAL implications of relativity and QM.
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Mathematics is a “queen of science”
But she is a “queen” only because she married the
” king of science ” – physics
Without “king” she can be a ” mad woman”
On the other hand, sometime “she” can make her “husband ” crazy
Therefore Josiah Willard Gibbs wrote:
” Mathematician may say all that he wants,
but physicist must maintain at least some spark of common sense “.
And Feynman had the same opinion:
” Since the mathematical physicists have taken over, theoretical
physics has gone to pot. The bizarre concepts generated out of
the over use and misinterpretation of mathematics would be funny
if it were not for the tragedy of the waste in time, manpower, money,
and the resulting misdirection”
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Re: String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by yiostheoy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:05 pm

I don't see any relevance of these physics models with Philosophy.

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Re: String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by Cerveny » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:33 pm

socratus wrote:“String” doesn’t have practical applications / observation and therefore
it is only a pure “ beautiful mathematics”. String theory has only MATHEMATICAL implications of relativity and QM.
==========...
Mathematics is a “queen of science”
But she is a “queen” only because she married the
” king of science ” – physics
Without “king” she can be a ” mad woman”
On the other hand, sometime “she” can make her “husband ” crazy
Therefore Josiah Willard Gibbs wrote:
” Mathematician may say all that he wants,
but physicist must maintain at least some spark of common sense “.
And Feynman had the same opinion:
” Since the mathematical physicists have taken over, theoretical
physics has gone to pot. The bizarre concepts generated out of
the over use and misinterpretation of mathematics would be funny
if it were not for the tragedy of the waste in time, manpower, money,
and the resulting misdirection”
======================. ..
Math is physics of ideas and physics is math of the matter...

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Re: String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by socratus » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:01 am

yiostheoy wrote:I don't see any relevance of these physics models with Philosophy.
The “philosophical stone” in this post is hidden in the question:
Is “string” physical or only mathematical searching?
The answer can be one:
“ String” is only mathematical not physical searching because
practically is impossible to observe “string particle”
( length = 10^-33cm, without thickness).
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Re: String particle –--> LHC –--> multi-D

Post by yiostheoy » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:30 am

socratus wrote:
yiostheoy wrote:I don't see any relevance of these physics models with Philosophy.
The “philosophical stone” in this post is hidden in the question:
Is “string” physical or only mathematical searching?
The answer can be one:
“ String” is only mathematical not physical searching because
practically is impossible to observe “string particle”
( length = 10^-33cm, without thickness).
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Hidden yes.

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