Are these time questions unsolvable?

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Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:39 am

For example: how fast does time move?

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by surreptitious57 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:30 am

Time is relative and so does not have a uniform speed as such. Besides it is easier to calculate how fast something
is moving through time rather than how fast time itself is actually moving. Though I am not altogether certain if it
is a question with an answer. But I myself am moving forward through time at the speed of one second per second

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:47 pm

Time does not move, it is a dimension. Are you asking, how fast it feels like it is moving? Visualize a triangle. It has no physical volume. ( There is no physical form of a triangle in your brain. ) * To say how many inches it is, is meaningless. Similarly, asking how fast time feels to be moving is unquantifiable.
* Even if neurons firing facilitate your visualized triangle, they do not fire in a triangular shape.
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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:49 pm

One second per second? That is like saying I am one foot per one foot tall.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by surreptitious57 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:13 pm

Is not one second on a clock the same as one second that you experience in real time
Absolutely and so you are indeed moving through it at exactly one second per second
Were you moving faster or slower then all clocks would be going at a different speed

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:38 pm

Are you saying that the rate at which you experience time is the actual objective rate? Time does not move, flow etc. It is a dimension like height, depth or width. That is the claim made by relativity ans Relativity has been validated and verified.
There is a difference between objective time and subjective time. 10 minutes holding your wife feels like a minute. 10 minutes with your hands on a hot stove feels like an eternity.
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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:42 pm

Our experience of time flowing is an illusion. If time moves, it must move at a particular rate. That rate must be the combination of two different things. For example, it makes sense to say that something is moving uniformly at 5 miles per hour. However, it makes no sense to say that something is moving uniformly at 5 miles per mile.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by petm1 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:28 pm

Time is relative and so does not have a uniform speed as such.
The tick, A-side, of your clock is always equal to the tock, B-side, but it is your relative position that determines them together, C side, in terms of a light clock.
Time does not move, it is a dimension.
Time dilates like the light wave we use to count time.
One second per second? That is like saying I am one foot per one foot tall.
The Earth is dilating at the rate of 9.8 meters per second per second yet we measure it as a diameter of 7917.5 miles second per second.
Is not one second on a clock the same as one second that you experience in real time
Absolutely and so you are indeed moving through it at exactly one second per second
Were you moving faster or slower then all clocks would be going at a different speed
All clocks do count at different rates, it takes a lot of engineering to keep our GPS up and running if they all ran at the same rate we would never have to synchronize our watches.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:26 pm

OK, Einstein was wrong and you are correct.
BTW Time is a dimension. It does not dilate etc. However, velocity changes one's perspective. See Lorenz Transformation equations.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by Obvious Leo » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:31 am

raw_thought wrote:BTW Time is a dimension.
A dimension is a mathematical object, not a physical one, so this statement requires some further clarification. Specifically a dimension is a co-ordinate system used to define the location and/or momentum of physical entities. In spacetime physics time is represented as a Cartesian dimension orthogonal to three dimensions of space and for this reason Einstein described spacetime as a mathematical entity and NOT a physical one. Representing time in this way was simply a mathematical convenience which can make no statement about the nature of the universe because Cartesian dimensions are bi-directional mathematical objects whereas time is patently NOT. The arrow of time is resolutely uni-directional whereas most of the equations of physics are time invariant. Significantly not all of them are.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by Obvious Leo » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:36 am

Einstein's General Relativity shows that it is utterly impossible to synchronise two clocks, no matter whereabouts in the universe they are placed relative to each other. This has been empirically verified countless times and must apply all the way down to the Planck scale, which means that GR is incompatible with SR, which assumes the opposite.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:33 am

The relativity of simultaneous events is proof that time "flowing" is a fiction.
Einstein himself, said concerning the death of his friend Basso, that time does not pass. Past and future are like east and west. Detroit is east of LA and west of New York.
Dimensions are only a mathematical construct??? Well I guess if you stretch the definition of "mathematical construct". The height of a mountain is tangible.

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:35 am

So the curving of spacetime (gravity) is only a mathematical construct that has no resemblance to reality???

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by Obvious Leo » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:30 am

raw_thought wrote:So the curving of spacetime (gravity) is only a mathematical construct that has no resemblance to reality???
Exactly. Can you name anybody who says differently?

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Re: Are these time questions unsolvable?

Post by raw_thought » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:37 pm

Einstein for one. His theory of Relativity says that spacetime ACTUALLY curves and that is what gravity is.

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