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God and Soul in Quantum Theory. / By Socratus. /
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Can the conception of God and Soul have Physical Background?
My answer is: "Yes, God and Soul have physical background
and can be explained by physical formulas, equations and laws."
I will try to prove my position.
=.
Question: what is God?
The Religious answer:
God is something Absolute, Infinite, Eternal, Spiritual,
the Highest form of Consciousness, Who created everything
in the Universe.
The Physical answer ( in my opinion) is more concrete:
There is an Absolute, Infinite, Eternal Reference Frame and IT is
Vacuum in the condition of Absolute Zero: T=0K,
that take the functions of God and create everything in the Universe.
Zero Vacuum T=0K is a "solo fabric" of creation everything in the Universe.
Zero Vacuum T=0K is a Metaphysical / Spirit World.
How can I prove my opinion?
1. God does not create this Material World directly Himself.
2. To create Material World and everything in It, God uses Spiritual Particles.
3. The modern name of these Spiritual Particles is Quantum of Light.
Quantum of Light is most phenomenal particle in the World.
Quantum of Light is the structural essence of the Material World.
The essence of all material objects is Quantum of Light.
Through the behavior of Quantum of Light we can understand
what an Absolute God has the Highest form of Consciousness.
==========..
a)
In the Vacuum Quantum of Light has maximal speed : c=1
(from our earthly- gravity point of view).
No material particles can ever attain this velocity. It means that this
constant characteristic brings quantum of light to the world which
is different from Material World and this is Vacuum World of Spirits.
b)
Many kinds of so-called different particles (waves) are only different
manifestation / modifications of Quantum of Light.
How can I prove this opinion?
It seems that different particles create different waves:
EM-waves, Gamma-Radiation waves, Röntgen-Radiation waves,
Light-Waves, Ultraviolet -waves, Super/Ultra-High-TV-waves,
Short/Mid/Long wave- length Radio Emission waves . . . but . .
. . . but the energy of each of them is written by formula: E=h*f.
It means that the difference between all these particles / radiations
depends only on frequencies and the background of these modifications
is one and the same particle: Quantum of Light in different frequencies.
c)
Question:
Why the simple quantum particle electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
+E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
E=h*f and e^2=ah*c,
E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞ ?
My answer:
Because an electron and quantum of light / photon and antielectron
are one and the same particle in different actions and conditions and
" The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass "
unites them together.
d)
The Quantum of Light is not static / firm particle.
Quantum of Light is an elastic particle and can change its geometrical form.
e)
Through so-called "vacuum fluctuation / transformation" Quantum of Light
can materialize or dematerialize its body ( virtual particle can become real
and vice versa) using its own inner impulse h or h*=h/2pi.
(Newtonian physics explains movement as a result of outside influence,
Quantum physics explains movement as a result of own inner power / impulse
of particle and therefore Quantum physics is only a modern Aristotle's metaphysics)
f)
1. The potential state of Quantum of Light in the Zero Vacuum is: E=Mc^2.
2. In the straight constant movement its speed is c=1 and its energy is: E=hc
Quantum of Light behaves like a "particle".
3. In the rotation around its axis Quantum of Light behaves like "wave"
with energy: E=h*f. In the Zero Vacuum nobody has influence on
behavior of Quantum of Light. Quantum of Light by himself decided
in which state He wants to be, it means that Quantum of Light has some
kind of consciousness. The consciousness of Quantum of Light can evolve.
Quantum of Light takes part in creation atom, cell, flower, . . . etc . . . and
in creation every living being. And Its evolution of consciousness is going
step by step (from atom, cell, flower . . . to living being ) according to ancient
Vedas conception: ‘ from vague wish up to a clear thought ’
g)
Now . . . . . if . . . .
If Quantum of Light have some kind of consciousness which can evolve
and the Absolute Zero T=0K gave the birth to this Spiritual Particles . . . .
then . . . . then it means that the T=0K have an Absolute the Highest form of Consciousness.
=====================…
P.S.
The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas,
equations using the Quantum Theory will be never ended.
a)
Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?
https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/cont ... elieve-god
b)
Does Quantum Physics Prove God's Existence?http://physics.about.com/od/physicsmyth ... tumGod.htm
c)
Does quantum theory prove God exists?
http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions ... od-exists/
#
In 1954 Einstein wrote:
" All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken.'‘
#
In 1987 Feynman wrote:
‘ It is important to realize that in physics today,
we have no knowledge of what energy is.
We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
blobs of a definite amount. ‘
================ . . .
My concussions:
We don't accepted Absolute Reference Frame T=0K and therefore
we don't know what Quantum of Light and Electron are and therefore
every speculation is possible. I say:
1) God is simple: T=0K
2) Soul is simple: Quantum of Light
( c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, h=E/t, h=kb,
h=1, c=1. h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* , e^i(pi)= -1)
3) Everything else (material) is complex.
========================….
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‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive
of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208, by Danah Zohar. /
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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Yes god is the relative thing in probability.
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socratus wrote:God and Soul in Quantum Theory. / By Socratus. /
=.
Can the conception of God and Soul have Physical Background?
My answer is: "Yes, God and Soul have physical background
and can be explained by physical formulas, equations and laws."
I will try to prove my position.
=.
Question: what is God?
The Religious answer:
God is something Absolute, Infinite, Eternal, Spiritual,
the Highest form of Consciousness, Who created everything
in the Universe.
The Physical answer ( in my opinion) is more concrete:
There is an Absolute, Infinite, Eternal Reference Frame and IT is
Vacuum in the condition of Absolute Zero: T=0K,
that take the functions of God and create everything in the Universe.
Zero Vacuum T=0K is a "solo fabric" of creation everything in the Universe.
Zero Vacuum T=0K is a Metaphysical / Spirit World.
How can I prove my opinion?
1. God does not create this Material World directly Himself.
2. To create Material World and everything in It, God uses Spiritual Particles.
3. The modern name of these Spiritual Particles is Quantum of Light.
Quantum of Light is most phenomenal particle in the World.
Quantum of Light is the structural essence of the Material World.
The essence of all material objects is Quantum of Light.
Through the behavior of Quantum of Light we can understand
what an Absolute God has the Highest form of Consciousness.
==========..
a)
In the Vacuum Quantum of Light has maximal speed : c=1
(from our earthly- gravity point of view).
No material particles can ever attain this velocity. It means that this
constant characteristic brings quantum of light to the world which
is different from Material World and this is Vacuum World of Spirits.
b)
Many kinds of so-called different particles (waves) are only different
manifestation / modifications of Quantum of Light.
How can I prove this opinion?
It seems that different particles create different waves:
EM-waves, Gamma-Radiation waves, Röntgen-Radiation waves,
Light-Waves, Ultraviolet -waves, Super/Ultra-High-TV-waves,
Short/Mid/Long wave- length Radio Emission waves . . . but . .
. . . but the energy of each of them is written by formula: E=h*f.
It means that the difference between all these particles / radiations
depends only on frequencies and the background of these modifications
is one and the same particle: Quantum of Light in different frequencies.
c)
Question:
Why the simple quantum particle electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
+E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
E=h*f and e^2=ah*c,
E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞ ?
My answer:
Because an electron and quantum of light / photon and antielectron
are one and the same particle in different actions and conditions and
" The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass "
unites them together.
d)
The Quantum of Light is not static / firm particle.
Quantum of Light is an elastic particle and can change its geometrical form.
e)
Through so-called "vacuum fluctuation / transformation" Quantum of Light
can materialize or dematerialize its body ( virtual particle can become real
and vice versa) using its own inner impulse h or h*=h/2pi.
(Newtonian physics explains movement as a result of outside influence,
Quantum physics explains movement as a result of own inner power / impulse
of particle and therefore Quantum physics is only a modern Aristotle's metaphysics)
f)
1. The potential state of Quantum of Light in the Zero Vacuum is: E=Mc^2.
2. In the straight constant movement its speed is c=1 and its energy is: E=hc
Quantum of Light behaves like a "particle".
3. In the rotation around its axis Quantum of Light behaves like "wave"
with energy: E=h*f. In the Zero Vacuum nobody has influence on
behavior of Quantum of Light. Quantum of Light by himself decided
in which state He wants to be, it means that Quantum of Light has some
kind of consciousness. The consciousness of Quantum of Light can evolve.
Quantum of Light takes part in creation atom, cell, flower, . . . etc . . . and
in creation every living being. And Its evolution of consciousness is going
step by step (from atom, cell, flower . . . to living being ) according to ancient
Vedas conception: ‘ from vague wish up to a clear thought ’
g)
Now . . . . . if . . . .
If Quantum of Light have some kind of consciousness which can evolve
and the Absolute Zero T=0K gave the birth to this Spiritual Particles . . . .
then . . . . then it means that the T=0K have an Absolute the Highest form of Consciousness.
=====================…
P.S.
The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas,
equations using the Quantum Theory will be never ended.
a)
Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?
https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/cont ... elieve-god
b)
Does Quantum Physics Prove God's Existence?http://physics.about.com/od/physicsmyth ... tumGod.htm
c)
Does quantum theory prove God exists?
http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions ... od-exists/
#
In 1954 Einstein wrote:
" All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken.'‘
#
In 1987 Feynman wrote:
‘ It is important to realize that in physics today,
we have no knowledge of what energy is.
We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
blobs of a definite amount. ‘
================ . . .
My concussions:
We don't accepted Absolute Reference Frame T=0K and therefore
we don't know what Quantum of Light and Electron are and therefore
every speculation is possible. I say:
1) God is simple: T=0K
2) Soul is simple: Quantum of Light
( c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, h=E/t, h=kb,
h=1, c=1. h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* , e^i(pi)= -1)
3) Everything else (material) is complex.
========================….
#
‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive
of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208, by Danah Zohar. /
=============== . . .
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
===…
I.S.
You've shown, the really, really exceptionally hard way, that the Omnipotent God theory and Big Bang theory are functionally identical.

Inasmuch as both theories fail to explain the beginnings of things in a manner that fits the facts, so what?

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socratus wrote: How can I prove my opinion?
1. God does not create this Material World directly Himself.
2. To create Material World and everything in It, God uses Spiritual Particles.
3. The modern name of these Spiritual Particles is Quantum of Light.

Deep end, Etc.
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By the way . . . . . .
Quantum of Light has long history:
Vedas' " purusha"
Plato's " ideas" ,
Kant's " thing in itsel ",,
Leibniz's " monades " . . . . . etc . . .
No matter what their names are
but they are forces that give rise to all Nature's phenomena.
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socratus wrote:By the way . . . . . .
Quantum of Light has long history:
Vedas' " purusha"
Plato's " ideas" ,
Kant's " thing in itsel ",,
Leibniz's " monades " . . . . . etc . . .
No matter what their names are
but they are forces that give rise to all Nature's phenomena.
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Nonsensical, meaningless, and completely irrelevant drivel.

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Proofs of God in a photon
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 27306.html
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The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas,
equations using the Quantum Theory never will be ended.
===…
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socratus wrote:Proofs of God in a photon
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 27306.html
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P.S.
The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas,
equations using the Quantum Theory never will be ended.
===…
With pinheads who have sat in during the first few weeks of a basic physics course and so can quote a fundamental equation that they do not understand, never will understand and cannot possibly explain, allowed to run freely about the planet, post to philosophy forums, and maybe even propagate when they find someone sufficiently drugged or drunk, idiotic bullshit will never be ended.

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Good things grow out of bullshit. Dont dismiss shit greylorn.
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God and Religious Toleration/The proof of God
God and Quantum Physics
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/God_and_Re ... of_God#God
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Yes reckon you could be right there socratus. But god is love and love is relativity as consciousness. Love is the mover and your consciousness is part of the mover as relativity.
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The Universe (as a material reality) was emerged from one common source.
The ancient Vedic teachers called it – Brahman,
Lao-Tzu called it – Tao,
The prophets of the Book called it – Yahweh or Allah.
Today the scientific officially community called this "common source"– Big Bang.
Of course, there is also a scientific possibility that the "common source
for the material reality " can be . . . 11- dimensions or M- dimensions, . . .
But tomorrow . . . .
When the next revolution rocks physics, chances are it will be about nothing -
— the vacuum, that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18 ... everything
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" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./
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The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
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Wikipedia :
“ Unfortunately neither the concept of space nor of time is well defined,
resulting in a dilemma. If we don't know the character of time nor of space,
how can we characterize either? “
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
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"Now we know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects
over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the cosmic,"
said Peter Milonni
from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
#
Although we are used to thinking of empty space as containing
nothing at all, and therefore having zero energy, the quantum
rules say that there is some uncertainty about this. Perhaps each
tiny bit of the vacuum actually contains rather a lot of energy.
If the vacuum contained enough energy, it could convert this
into particles, in line with E-Mc^2.
/ Book: Stephen Hawking. Pages 147-148.
By Michael White and John Gribbin. /
#
Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned into
particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.
/ University of Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb./
#
Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions.
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/768.html
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Since Einstein's relativity implies light is in three different places at the same time, that is three different states, a trinary. Computer simulations run binary code. The host of a simulation is nicked named "God." Perhaps the universe is part of a simulation that uses trinary code. Wheras computer simulations run only 24-60 frames per second, perhaps this universe runs a very high frames per second, 10^x frames per second, combined with randomness under constraint, causing quantum like effects.
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The idea that God Himself is Absolute space (T=0K) seems very strange.
Strange but it is not new.
English philosopher Henry More (1614 – 1687) in his books
" An Antidote against Atheism" and " Enchiridion Metaphysicum"
wrote that the Absolute space must be a real existence . . . .
. . . an essential being . . . a genuine spiritual substance . . .
Absolute space is the divine essence . .. Absolute space is divine . .
Absolute space is no other than God Himself . . .
Absolute space is God . . . .
And this Absolute space can generate "spirits of nature" - active agents
through whom the will of God becomes expressed in the world of matter.
/ Pages 147 - 148, 162. / . . . . . and
" Absolute space for Newton is not only the omnipresence of God;
it is also the infinite scene of the divine knowledge . . . ."
/ page 260 /
/ Book: The metaphysical foundations of modern science. By E.A. Burtt./
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Ok socratus me old china. You got it here in what you say. More simply put it is omni location or nonlocality you are describing. All other location is but a form of sizeless omni location and that includes time and space. Spooky action is telling us this truth about the universe. Thing is though you have to be thinking outside the local box to descern this fact from the local fictional facts. Well done for doing it .
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