The Problem of Origin in Quantum Theory

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The Problem of Origin in Quantum Theory

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(That "ground state of the universe")



1.)The vital principle of superspace or quantum foam- the supposed foundational "substance" of the universe- is a point of "Absolute Zero" (Ø point).

2.)The pure potentiality of quantum foam transforms (itself) into an atomic entity: Self.

This is the entire axis upon which quantum theory moves: one state (virtuality) becoming an-other (actuality).

They fail to bring the two together in a state of total in-comprehension (Aletheia,trace) , so that they move from one to the other, leaving each state fixed in contradiction, or some provisional and tranquil "Unity".

3.)The "subquantum" or threshold, would, in truth, never be quite attached to the quantum, would never be a simple appendage to measurable energy- the (sub)quantum- unless we are, as such, simply describing a different form of the quantum.

But in that way we would have ignored the middle term that (is) more originary than the quantum/subquantum wave, in a word, the "Ø point".

4.)The Ø point (is) neither " mind nor matter", separation nor unity, (it is) not "virtuality-becoming-actuality" , as the quantum physicists mis-understood it.

Rather, producing each field, (it is) a simulacrum of graphic difference, a "writing" or code more originary than (dualism/non dualism) of potentiality/actualization, virtuality/becoming, etc.

5.)The "electromagnetic wave-fields of the absolute void", then, would be the para-activity of our own fourth dimension, (which does not furnish us with a "ground state" or foundation of the real, but rather with a fresh perspective of the familiar, as played on by "super-spatial waves"- thus simply one form of temporality interfacing with an-Øther).

6.)The possibility of the "fifth dimensional field" or quantum vacuum, further, would be, once again,a different form of the fourth.

One field passing into an-other, without the hierarchal order of "foundation" and what follows from it, the "first" and its "derivative" in our " familiar" dimension.

7.)The Ø point (is) that (?) which escapes all classifications according to the code, "quantum meta-physics" , "supersymmetry","superspace", etc.

The one governin
g force- rule without presence- that eludes all the physicists and their "theories", operating (beyond/within) their meta-physical Game of Mastery and Domination
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Re: The Problem of Origin in Quantum Theory

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Yes reading it as you have put it makes it clear that the two states of virtual and actual are not incorporated together. Where as in fact they have to be incorporated together. I believe that the virtual to be an aspect of nonlocality which incorporates actuality. So its a dimension between the actualised locality and nonlocality. Nonlocality being omni present to all dimensions as consciousness. Thought comes to mind which is moving - nonmoving. Thought therefor is a non personal dimension which moves but in some ways dose not move. Like a moving nonmoving computer program actualising the event inside consciousness.
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Re: The Problem of Origin in Quantum Theory

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Yes, I agree with the essential logic that is at work here.

But to break away from the traditional scheme- which would have the omnipresence of non-locality or atemporal eternity, above and beyond localized dimensions- we must indeed have constant recourse to that "in between" dimensional-logic that opens the path to each term.

We must indeed think of the "non" in a way that has never been thought before and- excuse my brevity so that I may arrive more swiftly to my point- we must think too of the non of the non, of a "zeroing out" that cannot be summed up as a neutral negation or inverse of actuality.

We must also highlight the logic of actuality, of the omnipresence of presencing or "actuality", "becoming", the "now" as the very site where the zero point is erased and sheltered.
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We can say that a nonlocal nonmoving thing creates and moves locality. Super position has to be the halfway post as it is niether local nor nonlocal its a fuzzy incomprehensible. Something certain and not certain all at one.
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You're Alan Sokal and I claim my prize!
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Re: The Problem of Origin in Quantum Theory

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Montgomery77 wrote:(That "ground state of the universe")



1.)The vital principle of superspace or quantum foam- the supposed foundational "substance" of the universe- is a point of "Absolute Zero" (Ø point).

2.)The pure potentiality of quantum foam transforms (itself) into an atomic entity: Self.

This is the entire axis upon which quantum theory moves: one state (virtuality) becoming an-other (actuality).

They fail to bring the two together in a state of total in-comprehension (Aletheia,trace) , so that they move from one to the other, leaving each state fixed in contradiction, or some provisional and tranquil "Unity".

3.)The "subquantum" or threshold, would, in truth, never be quite attached to the quantum, would never be a simple appendage to measurable energy- the (sub)quantum- unless we are, as such, simply describing a different form of the quantum.

But in that way we would have ignored the middle term that (is) more originary than the quantum/subquantum wave, in a word, the "Ø point".

4.)The Ø point (is) neither " mind nor matter", separation nor unity, (it is) not "virtuality-becoming-actuality" , as the quantum physicists mis-understood it.

Rather, producing each field, (it is) a simulacrum of graphic difference, a "writing" or code more originary than (dualism/non dualism) of potentiality/actualization, virtuality/becoming, etc.

5.)The "electromagnetic wave-fields of the absolute void", then, would be the para-activity of our own fourth dimension, (which does not furnish us with a "ground state" or foundation of the real, but rather with a fresh perspective of the familiar, as played on by "super-spatial waves"- thus simply one form of temporality interfacing with an-Øther).

6.)The possibility of the "fifth dimensional field" or quantum vacuum, further, would be, once again,a different form of the fourth.

One field passing into an-other, without the hierarchal order of "foundation" and what follows from it, the "first" and its "derivative" in our " familiar" dimension.

7.)The Ø point (is) that (?) which escapes all classifications according to the code, "quantum meta-physics" , "supersymmetry","superspace", etc.

The one governin
g force- rule without presence- that eludes all the physicists and their "theories", operating (beyond/within) their meta-physical Game of Mastery and Domination
What kind of chemical shit do you need to smoke, eat, or inject to come up with such dreadfully incoherent bullshit? I ask, to insure that I do not get sucked into the same chemically induced state of goofiness. Thank you.

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Re: The Problem of Origin in Quantum Theory

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Greylorn try some scopalamine chill you out some bro. Its stops some of the old brain from working . Ha
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