do you exist in physics

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jackles
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do you exist in physics

Post by jackles » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:11 pm

Yep that is the question do you exist in physics. And im talking about the you as consciouness thats reading this question.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Ginkgo » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:38 pm

jackles wrote:Yep that is the question do you exist in physics. And im talking about the you as consciouness thats reading this question.
Yes, according to scientific realism.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_realism

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Nibbana » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:10 am

I'm afraid physics can't apply to consciousness. it's not matter or energy.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Ginkgo » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:39 am

Nibbana wrote:I'm afraid physics can't apply to consciousness. it's not matter or energy.
I tend to agree, but science doesn't acknowledge dualistic explanations for consciousness.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Gee » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:48 am

Nibbana;

Hi. Welcome to the forum.
Nibbana wrote:I'm afraid physics can't apply to consciousness. it's not matter or energy.
This confuses me. The last time I checked, we still did not know what consciousness actually is, so how can we know what it is not?

Gee

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by jackles » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:07 pm

Yep consciousness as a nonphysical existance would then have to be omni present to all aspects of e=mc\2. C being the speed of light that makes consciousness seem to be stationary when measuring it. Could we then say consciousness is not of e =mc \2. In other words consciouness dosnt belong to the below c realm of things of its self but is omni present to it in the form of nonlocality. And that includes q m.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Ginkgo » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:03 am

Jackles, I though you were asking about physics.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by jackles » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:00 pm

Reckon a good test to see if consciousness is independent of timespace physics would be by means of timespace dilation experiment Consciousness if independent of physics would not be subject to timespace dilation as physical things are.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Ginkgo » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:03 am

jackles wrote:Reckon a good test to see if consciousness is independent of timespace physics would be by means of timespace dilation experiment Consciousness if independent of physics would not be subject to timespace dilation as physical things are.
Yes, that's the reason it isn't physics. There is no experiment one can conduct at the moment.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Blaggard » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:05 am

No i don't exist just a figment of your deranged solipsist imagination.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by jackles » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:09 am

The ego insists that it is individually significant as something and dose not take kindly to consciousness of its self in any other light.

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Nibbana » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:09 pm

Ginkgo wrote:
Nibbana wrote:I'm afraid physics can't apply to consciousness. it's not matter or energy.
I tend to agree, but science doesn't acknowledge dualistic explanations for consciousness.

Dualistic explanations?

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Nibbana » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:21 pm

Gee wrote:Nibbana;

Hi. Welcome to the forum.
Nibbana wrote:I'm afraid physics can't apply to consciousness. it's not matter or energy.
This confuses me. The last time I checked, we still did not know what consciousness actually is, so how can we know what it is not?

Gee
If it's matter, then why it's weightless? If it's energy, why it sometimes doesn't exist?

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Re: do you exist in physics

Post by Nibbana » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:28 pm

Blaggard wrote:No i don't exist just a figment of your deranged solipsist imagination.
You don't exist? Are you serious? You are just imaginary person?

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