morganna swish wrote:Sappho de Miranda wrote:
Essentially I would be disappointed by the 'missing exchange of 'experience'. Also the child's lack of knowledge would prove frustrating as I am not inclined towards the role of mentor or teacher.
Ginkgo wrote:
I think Sappho de Miranda is drawing a distinction between "knowledge" and "experience" A computer can have the knowledge, but it can't have the experience. A computer can ACT like it has experience, but it will only ever be an act, it can never actually have human experiences.
P.S. I would also think that a 13 year old would have limited experiences compared to an adult. This could explain why some judges were fooled, but that's just a guess on my part.
Yes, a computer can offer up facts and related experiences of the world.
What is missing is the first-hand view and felt experiences of a 13yr old boy living in the Ukraine.
It is this authentic experience or 'knowledge' of 'what it is like', that I would find interesting.
Yes, people can create an image, another ID and pretend; it happens all the time - people are fooled.
So what?
If there is some kind of a philo exchange which prompts a new understanding, then isn't this good enough ? Input - Output.
So we all agree that
qualia is significant to the issues, but how? A function of empathy perhaps, in that we feel more understanding if we feel that the engagement in communication is founded on common qualia. If we know that they know 'what it feels like' for them, then we can assume a mutual understanding. In the case of AI awareness, we don't even know what AI awareness 'feels like', and since the Turing Test is about imitating Human Awareness, we can't know if the AI is 'authentically' aware as an AI imitating humans, or, since it has been encouraged to imitate human behavior during its emergent stage, if it can only feel as human as the programming will allow? Then again, is it even comparable to human awareness since it is limited by its programming. And how can we tell, without qualia, that the AI is aware in the first place?
On some level this has more to do with human awareness than it does with AI awareness or at least, a deeper understanding of how awareness emerges.