Where the Time come from ?

[socratus]

Where the Time come from ?
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Can time exist without matter?
According to Newton the answer is “ Yes”
According to Einstein the answer is “ No”
Who is right, who is wrong?
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Newton declared that time is absolute and wrote that time
“ flows equably without relation to anything external”.
Einstein had another opinion.
He wanted to know:
“ Where does the conception of time come from?”
“ What is the essence of time?”.
To explain these questions he created two theories: SRT and GRT .
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According to SRT / GRT time is relative and depends on the mass and speed
It means that different moving mass-bodies can create different time.
It also means that space and time is only a result of some physical process
of moving mass / moving particles. The cause for time and space to be able
to appear is moving mass / moving particles.
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Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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[socratus]

We have two (2) kinds of time.
One is Newtonian – independent time.
Another is Minkowski time - dependent on space (spacetime)
" The map is not the territory ".
Where is the time-map and where is the time-territory ?
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[jackles]

Time without matter isnt time.time is movment in existance.so therefor no relativity no time.
Or time =something in existance.but that something has to move.

[Impenitent]

time is one lens of the Kantian "irremovable goggles"

-Imp

[jackles]

Would kindly expropriate.

[Impenitent]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique_of_Pure_Reason

I. Transcendental Doctrine of Elements

Space and time

-Imp

[petrushka.googol]

As the speed of an object approaches the speed of light time slows down for clocks on the moving object, till for all practical purposes time almost stands still (but never does actually because to accelerate a body to light speed will require infinite energy).

Applying reverse logic (boundary condition first) time always exists (even if it is infinitesimal) and is bound to the space dimensions by the matrix of space-time.

Time is a construct that helps us relate to our surroundings.

As you can visualize without time life would be...er...very boring.

[jackles]

Why would it take all the energy in the universe to get that object to light speed.given that all objects have to move.because if an object where to move at the speed of light it would become stationary it would have no time space to move in.it would become an object that is a sizeless .

[Cerveny]

Time is only a (local) rate of changes / development. It is something like indication of the pedometer. The question is, what keeps whole Universe to go by (approximately) same pace? Surface tension (energy)?

[jackles]

Yeah i get that time is the rate of change local to a moving frame of referance.but where the speed of light is concerned that frame of referance is to be considered stationary.

[Cerveny]

The speed of the light is not primary, independent, absolute feature of the Universe, but it is derived from its general movement, from its particular growth, from its condensation, from its crystallization...

[jackles]

Condensation have you gone poetic .or somfin

[HexHammer]

So far as I know, you got OP wrong.

GRT was made before Einstein, Einstein just elaborated on GRT and made SRT.

Time can exist without matter, but thing is that matter can manipulate time.

[socratus]

Where the Time come from ?
=.
Can time exist without matter?
According to Newton the answer is “ Yes”
According to Einstein the answer is “ No”
Who is right, who is wrong?
=..
Newton declared that time is absolute and wrote that time
“ flows equably without relation to anything external”.
Einstein had another opinion.
He wanted to know:
“ Where does the conception of time come from?”
“ What is the essence of time?”.
To explain these questions he created two theories: SRT and GRT .
=..
According to SRT / GRT time is relative and depends on the mass and speed
It means that different moving mass-bodies can create different time.
It also means that space and time is only a result of some physical process
of moving mass / moving particles. The cause for time and space to be able
to appear is moving mass / moving particles.
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Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
=.

a)
There is different *gravity time*.
The *gravity time* depends on mass / matter and its movement.
For example, every planet has its own *time* (gravity time)
b)
There is Minkowski negative -4D timespace (without Newtonian matter).
Minkowski -4D is *timeless* - zero vacuum continuum: T=0K.
T=0K is an eternal continuum, an absolute reference frame.
c)
In different local parts of *eternal vacuum * T=0K is possible to see
planets with their own *time*. For us the *Earth time* is absolute,
but from vacuum's point of view (Einsteinium) *Earth time* is relative.
d)
If quantum of light travels at constant speed c=1 its time *is frozen*.
(timeless particle)
The *time* appears when quantum of light changes its speed c=1.
This is not *gravity time* it is another kind of *time*.
The process when quantum of light keeps its changeable condition
is called *personal time* of quantum of light .
The *personal time* of quantum of light is explained by SRT.
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[HexHammer]

Time isn't in itself a substance, but the messurement of the manipulation of spacetime.