Stars cannot move at the speed of light.
Only light can go at the speed of light.
Stars cannot move at the speed of light.
It is just said that the Universe expands, but actually It does NOT.
Two things here;bahman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:53 pmYes, everything is relative but given the fact that you are sitting in a reference frame then a particle that moves with the speed of light has infinite energy.Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:19 pmYour argument does NOT 'follow'.
Saying, "The edge of observation moves with the speed of light that means that the matter on the edge moves with the speed of light.", is like saying, and proposing, the sun revolves around the earth, because this is what is observed. But this obviously does NOT 'follow', correct?
There is NO such place as the "edge of observation". There is OBVIOUSLY an 'edge of observation', from one's perspective, BUT if one went to where the 'edge of observation' is for another observer on earth, then what would be seen is that matter does NOT move with the speed of light there. However, and of course, where this new observer's 'edge of observation' is, matter would APPEAR to move with the speed of light. However, that place is exactly where the other observer is standing on earth, but there, matter is obviously not moving at the speed of light correct? The only thing moving at the speed of light, is light.
What you are proposing is the sun revolves around earth because this is what is observed from standing on the earth. However, and obviously, if one moves away from earth, then what is observed, seen, and understood is something completely different, correct?
Again, absolutely EVERY thing is relative, to the observer.
What exactly is 'infinite energy'?
So, this is your logic; because this, so called, "infinite energy" cannot be reached that is how at the, so called, "edge of observation" stars could have "infinite energy", correct?
It is called special relativity. I am not making an argument here.Age wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:21 amTwo things here;bahman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:53 pmYes, everything is relative but given the fact that you are sitting in a reference frame then a particle that moves with the speed of light has infinite energy.Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:19 pm
Your argument does NOT 'follow'.
Saying, "The edge of observation moves with the speed of light that means that the matter on the edge moves with the speed of light.", is like saying, and proposing, the sun revolves around the earth, because this is what is observed. But this obviously does NOT 'follow', correct?
There is NO such place as the "edge of observation". There is OBVIOUSLY an 'edge of observation', from one's perspective, BUT if one went to where the 'edge of observation' is for another observer on earth, then what would be seen is that matter does NOT move with the speed of light there. However, and of course, where this new observer's 'edge of observation' is, matter would APPEAR to move with the speed of light. However, that place is exactly where the other observer is standing on earth, but there, matter is obviously not moving at the speed of light correct? The only thing moving at the speed of light, is light.
What you are proposing is the sun revolves around earth because this is what is observed from standing on the earth. However, and obviously, if one moves away from earth, then what is observed, seen, and understood is something completely different, correct?
Again, absolutely EVERY thing is relative, to the observer.
What exactly is 'infinite energy'?
1. The reference frame one is "in" and looking from is very important here.
2. How does the rest of what you wrote here logically follow?
Yes.
Infinite energy is a huge amount of energy that cannot be reached. The edge of observation is the distance at which the stars move away with the speed of light.
Yes.
Come on now bahman, you have access to the same information as the rest of us, so I don't know how you are managing to misinterpret it.
In other words, what the article suggests is that the underlying ("ether-like") fabric in which the stars and galaxies are embedded, seems to be expanding in such a way that it's causing the galaxies to separate at a rate wherein the light coming off of them can no longer reach each other.Forbes senior contributor Ethan Siegel wrote: All the galaxies in the Universe beyond a certain distance appear to recede from us at speeds faster than light. Even if we emitted a photon today, at the speed of light, it will never reach any galaxies beyond that specific distance. It means any events that occur today in those galaxies will not ever be observable by us. However, it's not because the galaxies themselves move faster than light, but rather because the fabric of space itself is expanding.
What were you ASSUMING I was talking about?
What you wrote does NOT logically follow. And, what you wrote now says and means absolutely NOTHING.
Again, this says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.bahman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:25 pmYes.
Infinite energy is a huge amount of energy that cannot be reached.
LOL
So, to you, the sun travels at the speed of light, correct?