Infinite energy in our universe
Infinite energy in our universe
The edge of observation moves with the speed of light that means that the matter on the edge moves with the speed of light. For this, you need to inject infinite energy at each instant!
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
What is imaginary mass? Moreover, the mass is finite at the speed of light. Therefore, my argument follows.socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:25 am The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Your argument does NOT 'follow'.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:03 pmWhat is imaginary mass? Moreover, the mass is finite at the speed of light. Therefore, my argument follows.socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:25 am The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
Saying, "The edge of observation moves with the speed of light that means that the matter on the edge moves with the speed of light.", is like saying, and proposing, the sun revolves around the earth, because this is what is observed. But this obviously does NOT 'follow', correct?
There is NO such place as the "edge of observation". There is OBVIOUSLY an 'edge of observation', from one's perspective, BUT if one went to where the 'edge of observation' is for another observer on earth, then what would be seen is that matter does NOT move with the speed of light there. However, and of course, where this new observer's 'edge of observation' is, matter would APPEAR to move with the speed of light. However, that place is exactly where the other observer is standing on earth, but there, matter is obviously not moving at the speed of light correct? The only thing moving at the speed of light, is light.
What you are proposing is the sun revolves around earth because this is what is observed from standing on the earth. However, and obviously, if one moves away from earth, then what is observed, seen, and understood is something completely different, correct?
Again, absolutely EVERY thing is relative, to the observer.
What exactly is 'infinite energy'?
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Did you mean, mass is infinite when approaching but never reaching the speed of light, or rather, if mass could travel light speed it would be infinite?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:03 pmWhat is imaginary mass? Moreover, the mass is finite at the speed of light. Therefore, my argument follows.socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:25 am The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
What is imaginary mass?Walker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:26 amDid you mean, mass is infinite when approaching but never reaching the speed of light, or rather, if mass could travel light speed it would be infinite?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:03 pmWhat is imaginary mass? Moreover, the mass is finite at the speed of light. Therefore, my argument follows.socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:25 am The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
--- Dirac's virtual particles
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Ordinary mass can never reach the speed (c=1) of light
Only quantum of light can travel with the minimal (c=1)
speed in the cosmic vacuum
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Re: Infinite energy in our universe
The edge of observation is the point that stars at that distance move with the speed of light. We cannot see any object farther than that distance.
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Yes, everything is relative but given the fact that you are sitting in a reference frame then a particle that moves with the speed of light has infinite energy. Infinite energy is something that you cannot reach. And that is the point how at the edge of the observation stars could have this energy.Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:19 pmYour argument does NOT 'follow'.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:03 pmWhat is imaginary mass? Moreover, the mass is finite at the speed of light. Therefore, my argument follows.socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:25 am The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
Saying, "The edge of observation moves with the speed of light that means that the matter on the edge moves with the speed of light.", is like saying, and proposing, the sun revolves around the earth, because this is what is observed. But this obviously does NOT 'follow', correct?
There is NO such place as the "edge of observation". There is OBVIOUSLY an 'edge of observation', from one's perspective, BUT if one went to where the 'edge of observation' is for another observer on earth, then what would be seen is that matter does NOT move with the speed of light there. However, and of course, where this new observer's 'edge of observation' is, matter would APPEAR to move with the speed of light. However, that place is exactly where the other observer is standing on earth, but there, matter is obviously not moving at the speed of light correct? The only thing moving at the speed of light, is light.
What you are proposing is the sun revolves around earth because this is what is observed from standing on the earth. However, and obviously, if one moves away from earth, then what is observed, seen, and understood is something completely different, correct?
Again, absolutely EVERY thing is relative, to the observer.
What exactly is 'infinite energy'?
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
The universe expands. The speed from a reference point is larger farther we get from that point. Therefore expansion is at the speed of light at a given specific distance.Walker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:26 amDid you mean, mass is infinite when approaching but never reaching the speed of light, or rather, if mass could travel light speed it would be infinite?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:03 pmWhat is imaginary mass? Moreover, the mass is finite at the speed of light. Therefore, my argument follows.socrat44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:25 am The universe as whole is a static substance
The quantum particles can move with speed faster than (c),
if the constant speed (c) of particles are minimal in the cosmic vacuum
and maximum from our 3D point of view . . .
We cannot observe particles actions faster than constant speed (c)
maybe therefore most refuse to accept such assumption
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Is that true that farther we get from one point the faster the universe expands relative to that point?socrat44 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:24 amWhat is imaginary mass?
--- Dirac's virtual particles
------
Ordinary mass can never reach the speed (c=1) of light
Only quantum of light can travel with the minimal (c=1)
speed in the cosmic vacuum
-------
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Stars cannot move at the speed of light.bahman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:47 pmThe edge of observation is the point that stars at that distance move with the speed of light. We cannot see any object farther than that distance.
You are not thinking clearly.
Re: Infinite energy in our universe
Do you know that farther a star is from us faster it goes away from us?Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:25 pmStars cannot move at the speed of light.
You are not thinking clearly.