Do you experience time when there is no change?

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gaffo
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

Post by gaffo » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:40 am

Age wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:35 am
gaffo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:40 am
Age wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm


So, to you, there is absolutely no distinction between 'time' and 'motion', correct?
yep.

Age wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm
If yes, then, to you, are they the exact same thing?
I suspect they are the same, if you can provide a separation of the two, I'm all hears.

I do value learning, even it means i'm shown to be wrong.
There is no wrong, in things like these, because ALL things are relative to perspective.

To you, 'time' is just the exact same as 'motion', which is fine.

yep.

Age wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm
To me, however, 'motion', without going into specific definition, is a part of change. Whereas, 'time' is just the name given to the measuring of motion/change.
ok,

welcome specifics though.
Age wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm
To me, I have not observed nor experienced an actual thing as 'time', so that is why I refer it to the measuring only.
ok , welcome clarification..[/quote]

kindly clarify the clarification.
lol

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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

Post by Age » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:04 am

gaffo wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:40 am
Age wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:35 am
gaffo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:40 am


yep.




I suspect they are the same, if you can provide a separation of the two, I'm all hears.

I do value learning, even it means i'm shown to be wrong.
There is no wrong, in things like these, because ALL things are relative to perspective.

To you, 'time' is just the exact same as 'motion', which is fine.

yep.
So the word 'time' or 'motion' is completely redundant, to you, correct?

gaffo wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:40 am
Age wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm
To me, however, 'motion', without going into specific definition, is a part of change. Whereas, 'time' is just the name given to the measuring of motion/change.
ok,

welcome specifics though.
The action or process of moving or being moved.

This action/process causes change.
gaffo wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:40 am
Age wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:33 pm
To me, I have not observed nor experienced an actual thing as 'time', so that is why I refer it to the measuring only.
ok , welcome clarification..

kindly clarify the clarification.
lol
I have observed and experienced the very natural occurrence of movement, motion, and change. But I have NOT seen nor experienced any thing such as this 'time' thing, which 'you', human beings, talk about as being an actual real thing. Since no one has yet been able to explain what this 'time' thing is supposed to be, and considering that no matter where I am observing from there is no relative "time" difference to any one "else", then that is why I say 'time' is just the word, label, or name given to the measurement between points.

It is a lot harder to clarify some thing, which I do NOT observe NOR experience other than just the behavior of measuring, then it is to clarify what is observed and/or experienced. Would you like to clarify what 'time' is exactly, which you observe and/or experience?

If you like to clarify that 'time' is nothing but 'change', then the question 'Do you experience time when there is no change?' could also be asked in three other ways;
1. Do you experience time when there is no time? Or,
2. Do you experience change when there is no change?
3. Do you experience change when there is no time?

All completely meaningless questions.

If, however, you would like to clarify that 'time' is some thing else, then I would love to hear it.

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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

Post by roydop » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:23 pm

Time is the separation of two events, not locations.

Thought is the mechanism through which the appearance of separately existing events arises.

Pure witnessing, without conceptualization, does not give rise to time.

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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

Post by Sculptor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:02 pm

bahman wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:19 pm
Sculptor believes that there is no experience of time when there is no change. If it is so then why waiting is so bothersome? Obviously, there should be no waiting if there is no passage of psychological time.
Rubbish.
What I said is that there is no state of "nothing happening". Change is constant. THere is no state of "no change".
You really need to read more carefully. With a complete misunderstanding and misrepresentation like this, it is no wonder that your posts seem confused.

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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

Post by Cerveny » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:01 pm

The things are simper: At every moment the new Planck’s time layer/sediment is glued to the History. From unordered Future. The History is thus a growing crystal, where elementary particles are certain structural defects...

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