Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
Age wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:21 pm
And, 'I' SAY and CLAIM that the 'thing' known as 'human being' KNOWS.
'we' BOTH AGREE that the 'things' known as 'trees' and 'brick walls' can NOT know (things).
But, if 'you' want to CLAIM that the 'thing' human being can NOT know (things), then HOW can and will 'you' PROVE 'this'?
I'm not trying to prove NOT-knowing...is present in things known.
Okay. If you are NOT trying to PROVE what you say and claim is true, then that is perfectly fine with me. This, however, tends to lead to the CONCLUSION that you are NOT trying to PROVE 'this' BECAUSE you can NOT.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
It is you Age that has made that assumption claiming I want to make the claim.
This sentence is NONSENSICAL. Especially considering that you have ALREADY made that CLAIM. Are you now CLAIMING that the CLAIM that you have ALREADY MADE was REALLY NOT a CLAIM that you WANT TO make?
Look "dontaskme", 'you' have made the claim;
'things' do NOT know.
I say, and CLAIM;
The 'human being' is a 'thing'.
The 'thing', 'human being', can and does know.
Therefore, there are some 'things', which can and do know, namely the 'thing', human being. Full stop.
If you want to, now, claim that when 'you' say and state:
'things' do not know, is NOT a claim, or that you do NOT WANT TO make that CLAIM, then so be it. But if that is NOT, now, a CLAIM, or that you, now, do NOT WANT TO make that CLAIM, then what is 'it', EXACTLY, and/or what is 'it' you WANT TO say and CLAIM here?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
I'm asking you to clarify ...is the known thing known as 'human body' capable of knowing things....
NO.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
To me,that's like saying the arm or the leg or the ears or the nose can know things.
BUT I HAVE NEVER SAID 'it'.
'you' are just MAKING ANOTHER ASSUMPTION. Which, by the way, is ABSOLUTELY Wrong, AGAIN.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
So am asking you to clarify how a known thing known as a 'human body' can know things? which you claim can.
I have NEVER EVER CLAIMED such an ABSURD and RIDICULOUS thing.
WHY are you UNDER some sort of ASSUMPTION that I have EVER CLAIMED that a 'human body' can know things?
Are you NOT ABLE TO SEE the ACTUAL WORDS that I have USED and SAID here?
I am NOT sure how you could NOT, especially considering just how CLEARLY WRITTEN they are, and SOME of are even CAPITALIZED, so that they can be MORE CLEARLY SEEN.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
I'm now asking you to prove that a 'human body' can know things, and how can a known physical body know things....
BUT WHY ask me to PROVE such an ABSURD and STUPID CLAIM?
I have NEVER made that CLAIM, EVER.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
please clarify how a known object known as a body can know things? it's up to you the claimer to prove that.
LOL
1. I have NEVER make that CLAIM.
2. If it is up to the "claimer" to PROVE their CLAIM, then that would MEAN that it is up to you to PROVE that
'things' do not know, correct.
3. I have ALREADY PROVED IRREFUTABLY True the CLAIM that I have made that the 'thing', 'human being', CAN and DOES KNOW 'things'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:42 am
can it be the knower that can be located by touching it, like a tree or a brick wall can be touched?
Age wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:21 pmNO.
Have 'I' CLARIFIED ENOUGH NOW, for 'you'?
No not really, I'm asking again, can the 'knower' be located and touched as a physical known thing known as the human body? [/quote]
NO.
I am NOT SURE HOW I can CLARIFY my answers for you EVEN MORE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
because you previously claimed the 'thing' KNOWN as 'human beings' CAN KNOW some things.
YES I HAVE, and I STILL DO.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
The onus is on you now Age to prove that what you claim to be a known thing known as a human body can know....can be the knower?
'you', the one here known as "dontaskme", REALLY can NOT SEE and COMPREHEND the ACTUAL WORDS that I am USING.
I suggest 'you' go back over the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAY and WRITE here and for 'you' to SEE if 'you' can SPOT THE DIFFERENCE from the ACTUAL WORDS that 'you' SAY and WRITE here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
Can a physical known object that can be touched as a physical object known as the human body .....be the knower?
NO.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
You are not really returning the clarity you ask other's to ask you for.
PROVIDING CLARITY here is EXACTLY what I am DOING. I am ANSWERING the ACTUAL QUESTIONS you are posing and asking me here.
That 'you' are NOT YET ABLE to UNDERSTAND, and thus GAIN the CLARITY, is NOT REALLY my fault.
Although I could VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY POINT OUT and SHOW EXACTLY WHERE and WHEN 'you' are going Wrong here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
So until you do, I'll keep asking you to explain how a thing known as a human body aka an object known....is able to know things.
'you' can keep asking for me to explain 'this', for as long as 'you' like "dontaskme". But considering the Fact that I have NEVER said 'it', NOR even thought 'it', NOR even alluded to it, 'you' will NEVER get me to explain YOUR Wrong ASSUMPTION and Wrong CLAIM here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:59 pm
How do objects know things?
The do NOT.
Only SOME 'things', like 'human beings', know things. Understood?
Object and 'things', like 'trees', and 'brick walls', do NOT know things. Understood?