Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:07 pm
EDIT: The idea seemed to come up here...
Age:
How could an adult human being 'feel stuck' in Life when they obviously KNOW about suicide?
I can't see anything before that. And that is not suggesting one should and then he goes on later to say that he did not suggest one should commit suicide or it was a good idea. But maybe you have seen something from him where he does say that, I just can't see it.
Thanks for saving me the effort to recover this quote written by Age.
I AGREE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
How could an adult human being 'feel stuck' in Life when they obviously KNOW about suicide?
This quote implies a person who is feeling stuck in their life....obviously need not feel stuck in their life when they obviously know about suicide.
But this is NOT just what that quote 'implies'.
That quote could EITHER mean one of two things. Which are;
That is EXACTLY what my quote MEANS. That is; once one LEARNS and KNOWS a 'way out', then ANY 'feeling' of 'being stuck' is just naturally relinquished, or is naturally diminished.
Or,
It is just a question, asked for CLARIFICATION.
See, if an adult human being KNOWS about suicide, AND, they also 'feel stuck' in Life, THEN, IF they answered my question OPENLY and Honestly about HOW they could 'feel stuck', when they KNOW of a 'way out', THEN 'we' could ALSO come to KNOW HOW these types of 'people' CAN 'feel stuck' in Life, when they, OBVIOUSLY, ALREADY KNOW of a 'way out'.
BUT, IF they NEVER INFORM 'us' of HOW nor WHY they 'feel stuck', in Life, when they KNOW of a 'way out', of Life, ALREADY, then 'we' will ALSO NEVER HOW could these types of 'people' 'feel' this way.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
By saying that, Age is making the presumption...that adults obviously know about suicide.
Do you KNOW of ANY adult human beings who have absolutely NO knowledge about 'suicide'?
If yes, then WHO, EXACTLY?
ALSO, if you HAD read MY WORDS, without PRESUMING here, then what you could have CLEARLY SEEN is that I was NOT saying that adults OBVIOUSLY know about suicide. What I was CLEARLY SAYING, in that question asked for CLARIFICATION, was in regards to THOSE adult human beings who OBVIOUSLY, ALREADY, know about suicide.
If an adult does NOT YET ALREADY KNOW about suicide, then MY QUESTION regarding HOW an adult could 'feel stuck', OBVIOUSLY does NOT apply to them.
'you' REALLY do NEED to READ, and FOLLOW, MY WORDS FAR MORE CLOSELY "dontaskme".
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
Age is saying 'How' could any adult human 'feel stuck' as if Age was implying there is a way out of 'feeling stuck'
"dontaskme" writes as though there is absolutely NO way AT ALL out of 'feeling stuck'.
I was just SHOWING and PROVING otherwise.
OBVIOUSLY, if one 'feels STUCK', then this is ONLY BECAUSE they do NOT YET KNOW of a 'way out'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
Age is not telling people to kill themselves that is true.
Wow, that took SO LONG for 'you' to FINALLY arrive at thee ACTUAL Truth here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
Age is suggesting that since adult humans obviously KNOW about suicide then HOW could these people who 'feel stuck' really 'feel stuck' because they obviously know about suicide.
But I was NOT suggesting this AT ALL.
ONCE AGAIN, I will suggest 'you' OBTAIN CLARIFICATION BEFORE 'you' make ANY ASSUMPTION, AT ALL.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
Well, I'm not sure about this, I could be wrong, but that comment written by Age, to me, implies that we adult humans who obviously know about suicide don't ever need to 'feel stuck' because HOW could we possibly 'feel stuck' when we obviously know about suicide.
WHY does it appear that 'you', posters here, are NOT ABLE to SEE and RECOGNIZE questions when they are asked and posed?
The answer, by the way, will become MORE OBVIOUS as we proceed here.
Oh, and also, WHY do 'you', people, in the days when this is being written, have a HUGE TENDENCY to ASSUME what "another" is MEANING, and appear to ENJOY talking about to "another" what COULD yet "another" be MEANING, in what they are saying? 'you' have even created teaching institutions, 'schools of thought', and courses and lectures regards to this 'ASSUMING what "others" mean', in what they have ALREADY said and written. 'you' even used the misnomer, 'philosophy', to a whole way of teaching and learning to describe this WAY OF ASSUMING things about what "others" have said and written. And, 'you' do NOT even do this ASSUMING only with those who are 'dead', 'you' even do it with those in the EXACT SAME forums and even threads. As can be CLEARLY SEEN here.
LOL INSTEAD of just asking what the "other" MEANS, EXACTLY, 'you' seem to prefer to write as though 'they' are NOT even here and just keep ASSUMING what they are MEANING. Which, by the way, is a Truly AMUSING thing to WATCH and OBSERVE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
That to me, is reminding people that because they know about suicide, the option of suicide and it's meaning that we obviously know about, could perhaps mitigate their feelings of 'feeling stuck'...by means of a permanent solution through suicide when applied.
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WELL 'you' could NOT be MORE FURTHER from what thee ACTUAL Truth IS here.
What is, to you, is NOT necessarily what is ACTUALLY True AT ALL. Or, do 'you' BELIEVE otherwise "dontaskme"?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
It's endorsing an idea that may or may not be acted on.
Let us SEE if 'you' can HEAR and COMPREHEND this "dontaskme"
I have NEVER said, told, suggested, endorsed, NOT done absolutely ANY thing that encouraged the use of suicide. NO matter what 'you' think, ASSUME, nor BELIEVE. Is this UNDERSTOOD by 'you' "dontaskme"?
LOOK, and LISTEN, asking people who KNOW about suicide what are the REASONS for HOW they STILL 'feel stuck' in Life has absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER AT ALL in regards to acting up suicide, itself.
ASKING a person for the REASON WHY they STILL 'feel' a certain way, for me anyway, was done to obtain and gain MORE KNOWLEDGE, and/or to HIGHLIGHT and SHOW a POINT, and/or to PROVE a Fact.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
And very contrary to the other idea Age previously stated where it was condemned as very stupid, an idea I put forward about why we should maybe stop breeding more children into a world of pain and suffering.
Where is the CONTRADICTION or what is CONTRARY here?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
My point is if we already know about pain and suffering, like we do suicide...then we can choose not to add more pain and suffering by making more sentient beings who will also be subjected to it.
Well if that is YOUR POINT, then it is NOTED.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
It seems we have the solutions, but we ignore them maybe thinking that we can just make pain and suffering go away by wishing it away.
Like usual 'you' are going FURTHER and FURTHER OFF TOPIC and OFF TRACK here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
But as we know, it never goes away, and we do not seem to have a problem with it, it's almost like we like it that way.
What, supposedly, NEVER goes away?
If you are referring to 'pain and suffering', then I think you WILL FIND that that is NOT true AT ALL.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:08 am
As if we were addicted to a certain kind of sadness, like resigned to the end, always the end.
WHY do 'you' 'try to' speak FOR ALL "others", based solely upon only how 'you' 'think' and/or 'feel'?