Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:42 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:42 pm
But 'what' answer am I, SUPPOSEDLY, 'looking for'?
I was here just asking 'you', ALONE, and with NO PRECONCEPTION AT ALL of what 'your' answer would be.
Well I did respond to the question, and if you had no preconseptions about the sort of answer you required, why bother bringing the matter up?
To OBTAIN and GAIN CLARITY from the 'thinking' WITHIN 'that body'.
It is through this type of 'communication' WHERE and HOW KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING is SHARED, and WHY KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING keeps moving or progressing FORWARDS, and FURTHER.
'human beings', literally, learn MORE and ANEW from EACH OTHER.
And, the simplest, quickest, most efficient, easiest, and thus the BEST WAY to LEARN MORE, and also BECOME WISER, is to just SHARE the 'thoughts' and 'thinking' that are WITHIN 'bodies' in A Truly Honest and OPEN WAY.
By the way, the ONLY 'sort of answer' I required was the MOST Honest and OPEN answer 'you' HAD, or HAVE.
Also, 'you' did 'respond' the question I asked 'you', but, as can be clearly seen, 'you' responded in a way answering for EVERY one, INSTEAD of answering just for 'you' ALONE, which was 'the answer' I was SEEKING and ASKING for.
Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:42 pm
Age wrote:Harbal wrote: This, to me, is an example of a situation that tends to be an obstacle when we try to think about what the reality of a particular set of circumstances might be.
BUT 'the question', and thus 'the answer', is in regards to 'you', "harbal", ONLY.
It makes no difference who or what the question was in regard to.
BUT it does FOR 'me'.
See, if, for example, I ask 'you' a question in regards to 'you' ALONE, but 'you' provide an answer or response regarding ANY one ELSE, then that makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE to 'me' AND to what the question WAS in regards to EXACTLY.
Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:42 pm
You asked me about something that we do not have an agreed common definition of.
I may of somewhere ELSE, but in regards to what these words are following on from DIRECTLY, the 'thing' that I, specifically, asked you about was:
But, if the physical body is part of the identity of 'you', a 'person', and/or 'self', then let us say that if an arm or a leg is 'lost' in an accident, on 'that' physical human body, then do 'you' then become less of a 'person', less of a 'self', or just 'less then'?
Now, and Honestly, I could have done a much better job at making this question SOLELY about 'you', "harbal", ALONE. So, I APOLOGIZE for NOT being MORE CLEAR here.
Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:42 pm
Something, in fact, that I doubt there could be an absolute definition of. The "something" that I am referring to is "self", btw.
Okay, that is fair enough. 'you' DOUBT that there could be an absolute definition of the 'self' word. I, however, KNOW there is ONE, and ONE that FITS IN PERFECTLY with ALL of the other definitions of 'words', which FORMS a Truly IRREFUTABLE CRYSTAL CLEAR Picture of Life, and living. Itself.
However, that is besides THE POINT. THE POINT here was I just asked 'you' about what would happen to 'you', EXACTLY, and DIRECTLY, if some 'thing' happened, and 'your' Truly OPEN and Honest answer was ALL that I was seeking.
Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:42 pm
'you' just include the 'human body' as part of a 'person', 'self', or 'you', correct?
If yes, then 'you' also just say that it does NOT matter how much of 'you' is 'not there' or 'has gone', 'you' would still NOT say that 'you' were 'less of' a 'person', but just that 'you' FEEL 'less of a person', correct?
I'm sorry, but I don't know how to answer that.
Okay, no worries AT ALL.
Thank you for 'your' Truly OPEN and Honest answer here.
When I say, I just seek a Truly OPEN and Honest answer, then the three words, 'I don't know', I much PREFER to see and hear, than to see or hear ANY of the OTHER non ABSOLUTE so-called 'truths' and 'answers' that get TOLD.
For example, if 'you' had just written, 'I would feel less of a person', INSTEAD of writing, 'anyone would feel less of a person', then this would be far MORE CLOSER to answering thee ACTUAL QUESTION I posed and asked, Truthfully, although NOT ALL of the way 'there', YET.
Also, IF 'you' had answered 'that way' INSTEAD, then we could have MOVED ON and been MUCH FURTHER FORWARD than 'we' currently are 'now'.
Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:42 pm
But 'you' did say 'it', and I WAS just trying to gain CLARIFIED. But if you do NOT want to continue, then that is okay.
I can't give you clarification, because what I said was inapropriate to our discussion. But, again, if it is okay that I responded in the way that I did, why complicate things by bringing it up again?
What IS 'okay' IS IF 'you' do NOT want to continue ANYMORE.
Absolutely NO one is FORCING 'you' to do absolutely ANY 'thing' here. So, if 'you' do not want to continue, then that is all well and good, or okay.
However, unless the way 'you' responded in a Truly OPEN and Honest WAY, then I do NOT find 'that' okay.
The reason WHY I brought 'things' up again, is because I prefer Truly OPEN and Honest answers, to the ACTUAL question I pose and ask, instead of DEFLECTING answers. As I just said previously I MUCH PREFER to hear and see the words, 'I do not know', then some LESS THAN absolute Honest answer.