What is God

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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The illiteracy which people use in trying to answer this question starts with the simple ignorance that a thing can be either intelligible, in which case it is not perceptible, or it can be perceptible, but not intelligible. Now you might want to restudy Plato if you do not understand it. And you can even augment that with a dash of Aristotle.

So, which is God. As the JCS tells you, no man can see God. God is an intelligible. Now, simple minded savages imagine that God is a perceptible, and the mentally insane often believe they are a god, but in either case, all one has to say is that these folks are not literate.

So, What is the only power a mind can know? Is it the perceptible, or the intelligible? It cannot be both.

Again, if Adam and Eve are in the image of God, i.e., a perceptible example: i.e. every member of a class is a member of that class in accordance with the definition of that class, therefore, every member of a class is a perceptible of what must, by biological fact, become an intelligible to understand it. And since Adam and Eve are a Conjugate Binary Pair whereby complete induction and deduction produce the human race, then you have your own computers to tell you that ever bit of information processing, judgment, virtualization, is a product, again of binary recursion.
So, is God the perceptible binary recursion, or the intelligible, called judgment, predictive behavior, even prophecy? Or in a metaphor, The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy, the exact product of information processing by simple binary recursion.

Again, what is the only power a mind can know? Since a mind is, when functional, the most powerful life support system possible as by it we can virtualize the environment and predict the result of our own behavior and the behaviors of every thing with it when one is literate and since all information is processed by binary recursion, and a thing is a binary construct of relative contained by correlatives, the very definition of a thing is the same for both the perceptible and the intelligible, i.e., judgment. When man is literate, knows binary recursion used for the solution of every problem by his ability to virtual construct it, and judge the behavior, then one can say that the intelligible is in the image of the perceptible. '
i.e., it is wholly impossible to be literate and not know God, and it is wholly impossible to be illiterate and know God.

The insane provably do not know God, and commit every horror imaginable claiming God is something perceptible, the biggest sociopathic dick imaginable. Only the other hand, many civilized people claim to know nothing about God, yet their behavior is godly.


And one does not even have to be a babbling savage to understand the metaphor.
So, keep on babbling and ask what is the dichotomy of body and mind, when it has already been biologically defined.

What does it mean then, that God's faithful servant is blind? What does it mean to know the distinction between body and mind?

How can a simple act of reason escape those who claim to know anything about philosophy, religion, or science?
So, when it was written, in several places and even literally stated, that mankind cannot even read, is it an act of intelligence to prove it with every thing you say?

By definition, if Man is in the image of God, is it even possible for the illiterate to be called Man? And if mankind is still evolving to become literate, is not God then still making man?
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Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:37 am The illiteracy which people use in trying to answer this question starts with the simple ignorance that a thing can be either intelligible, in which case it is not perceptible, or it can be perceptible, but not intelligible. Now you might want to restudy Plato if you do not understand it. And you can even augment that with a dash of Aristotle.

So, which is God. As the JCS tells you, no man can see God. God is an intelligible. Now, simple minded savages imagine that God is a perceptible, and the mentally insane often believe they are a god, but in either case, all one has to say is that these folks are not literate.

So, What is the only power a mind can know? Is it the perceptible, or the intelligible? It cannot be both.
First we have to answer 'what is real' and 'what is illusory'.

What is real, [true, factual and knowledge] is always conditioned upon a specific framework and system of reality [FSR] or knowledge [FSK]; the latter is always entangled with the human conditions.
The point is whatever is claimed to be rational must at the least have the possibility to be real, i.e. potentially be conditioned with the FSR.
For example, I can claim there are real human-like aliens existing in a planet 100 light years away. This is possible-to-be-real [albeit likely improbable] because it is a matter of bringing the empirical evidences for verification and justification within the scientific FSK or any other credible FSK.

But the idea of a God which is purely intelligible cannot be subjected to verification within a FSK, thus cannot be real, so it can only be illusory.

Kant critiqued Plato on this where Plato flew into la la land.
Kant in CPR wrote:It was thus that Plato left the World of the Senses, as setting too narrow Limits to 2 the Understanding, and ventured out beyond it on the wings of the Ideas, in the empty Space of the Pure Understanding. [intelligibility]
He [Plato] did not observe that with all his efforts he made no advance meeting no resistance that might, as it were, serve as a support upon which he could take a stand, to which he could apply his powers, and so set his Understanding in motion.
CPR [A5] [B9]
It is the same where Russell stated theists [driven by pure reason] leaped across the No-Mans-Land into la la land without any basis of reality.
What he meant was it is only realistic to ground one leg in known reality while using the other free leg to test what is beyond; not jumping into the deep with both legs and end up in la la land.
http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2020/08 ... -land.html

Thus when one invest totally in the intelligible [i.e. pure reason] without any groundings on reality [as defined above], one is likely to be duped into an illusion, e.g. God, the soul, etc.

Note my threads;
God as a Psychological Derivative
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35084

God is an Impossibility [to be Real]
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24704

As such the quest for God to be a real entity is a non-starter but it is only good and productive psychologically.
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"Veritas Aequitas"
LMAO, that whole thing is either a joke, or you need your microwave oven repaired and then hospitalized.

If, all you can do is name either a relative, a correlative, and their combination, etc, see if you can finish the reasoning. Never even studied Aristotle have you? Never thought about exactly what you can name as the foundation of grammar, and reasoned it out for yourself because it is better to memorize gibberish. You obvious either never studied Plato, or comprehended him.

So, Language, an Intelligible, existence, itself, depends wholly on the human condition? You must a practitioner of psychopharmacology.

Can you name anything at all that is not real? Is it even possible to predicate reality?

You either cannot think at all, or cannot accept the responsibility that you have to first be able to map, in the simple, your own behavior, a mapping which is prior to your brain dead theories, or, you simply cannot get your head out the word salad because you cannot even lift your head off the table.
Do you know what Occam's Razor Means? It actually means if you cannot comprehend the simple, then you fool yourself into believing that you can do the complex.

So genius, do as Plato recommended. Sit down and practice geometry. Let your own hand teach you about names and not be a complete dumb ass who repeats gibberish. Draw a simply thing, a line segment, and study Parmenides to learn the principles of predication. Show your own eyes what you can name and how they can be used.

And, if the whole thing is unreal to you, you need meds to see if it is real, ask a nurse.

Every system of grammar is established on a convention of names, something your can or cannot do, not a pre-existing theory of reality.
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The question contradicts itself.

It is equivalent to wondering what being is.

That is, first we take for granted that God is something, and then we ask ourselves what God is.

While God is not a thing, but the negation of every possible thing.

The thing is in fact negation.
While God is the negation of the negation.
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bobmax wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:02 pm The question contradicts itself.

It is equivalent to wondering what being is.

That is, first we take for granted that God is something, and then we ask ourselves what God is.

While God is not a thing, but the negation of every possible thing.

The thing is in fact negation.
While God is the negation of the negation.
LMAO,
So a question contradicts itself? Does it go to the market too?
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Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:15 pm So a question contradicts itself?
Yes, because one wonders what thing is what cannot be a thing.
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bobmax wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:06 pm
Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:15 pm So a question contradicts itself?
Yes, because one wonders what thing is what cannot be a thing.
Have you ever considered professional help?
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Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:12 pm
bobmax wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:06 pm
Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:15 pm So a question contradicts itself?
Yes, because one wonders what thing is what cannot be a thing.
Have you ever considered professional help?
It's not that if you don't understand something then it's certainly bullshit...

However this behavior of yours does not allow any dialogue.
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bobmax wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:25 pm
Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:12 pm
bobmax wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:06 pm

Yes, because one wonders what thing is what cannot be a thing.
Have you ever considered professional help?
It's not that if you don't understand something then it's certainly bullshit...

However this behavior of yours does not allow any dialogue.
Well then, sit back and as you say, listen for a statement that contradicts itself. I have never had the pleasure of being able to hear words argue with themselves.
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Phil8659 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:09 am
"Veritas Aequitas"
LMAO, that whole thing is either a joke, or you need your microwave oven repaired and then hospitalized.

If, all you can do is name either a relative, a correlative, and their combination, etc, see if you can finish the reasoning. Never even studied Aristotle have you? Never thought about exactly what you can name as the foundation of grammar, and reasoned it out for yourself because it is better to memorize gibberish. You obvious either never studied Plato, or comprehended him.

So, Language, an Intelligible, existence, itself, depends wholly on the human condition? You must a practitioner of psychopharmacology.

Can you name anything at all that is not real? Is it even possible to predicate reality?

You either cannot think at all, or cannot accept the responsibility that you have to first be able to map, in the simple, your own behavior, a mapping which is prior to your brain dead theories, or, you simply cannot get your head out the word salad because you cannot even lift your head off the table.
Do you know what Occam's Razor Means? It actually means if you cannot comprehend the simple, then you fool yourself into believing that you can do the complex.

So genius, do as Plato recommended. Sit down and practice geometry. Let your own hand teach you about names and not be a complete dumb ass who repeats gibberish. Draw a simply thing, a line segment, and study Parmenides to learn the principles of predication. Show your own eyes what you can name and how they can be used.

And, if the whole thing is unreal to you, you need meds to see if it is real, ask a nurse.

Every system of grammar is established on a convention of names, something your can or cannot do, not a pre-existing theory of reality.
Note I quoted Kant who is touted as one of the Greatest Philosopher of ALL Times, critiquing Plato, thus there is some credibility there. I am merely standing on Kant's shoulders.

Seriously, you are the one who ought to take your meds.
Note this;
Ramachandran, Temporal Lobes Epilepsy and God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIiIsDIkDtg
You could be suffering from some milder temporal epilepsy which is most likely judging from the very weird way you presented your posts.

Geometry?
Show me a real perfect circle, triangle or whatever the polygon in reality?
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God is the creator of everything by definition.
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bahman wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:31 pm God is the creator of everything by definition.
And the Fact IS the Universe, Itself, through continual CHANGE is creating EVERY thing.
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What is God


Could be this >

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Or this >

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WHO KNOWS?

You do, or so you think.
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Who knows.


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