Christ as God incarnate, who knows what suffering God might have endured as forming intelligence from chaos, and then a reality that mammals can exist within.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:56 pmIt may not be the message, but it Jesus is an incarnate God, then his sacrifice in terms of suffering is small compared to sexually abused children, people who are tortured, people who live in malnutrition level poverty and so on. First it did not last that long, second he was God. The kinds of mental torture that go along with physical suffering would certainly have been minimized. There are signs that he did suffer some of this, but not to the degree humans will and they will suffer much longer. This is not to dismiss as nothing what he is purported to have gone through, but in the scheme of horrible experiences It probably wouldn't come with the top 100,000,000 deaths. Can a deity of the Abrahamic kind truly sacrifice? I don't think so.attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:17 am Plausible, but I doubt it. God has got more bollocks than that for the message.
But i agree with the idea that he intended or went willingly to his death or at least crucifixion. Not that I think this was a good idea.
Also, reality is a convoluted apparition of the Truth...from what I have witnessed I doubt and question everything beyond my own consciousness, including the "suffering" potrayed to us.
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