Are you a God in waiting, or have you stepped up to your destiny?

[Dontaskme]

If one is created in God’s image, as you and I are

If we are created in God's image, then the created is God. So logically God must always be God.

No need for the concept ''Created''

[Greatest I am]

Well, the mind is immortal.

Then you have made a great discovery.

You must show me the pictures of where we hang around when not here.

Care to share the millions you will make from such a fantastic find?

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

If one is created in God’s image, as you and I are

If we are created in God's image, then the created is God. So logically God must always be God.

No need for the concept ''Created''

Sure there is as an indicator of who creates the Gods. Us.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

Are you a God in waiting, or have you stepped up to your destiny?

If one is created in God’s image, as you and I are, and can know good and evil, as most of us do, then if you believe the scriptures, you have reached Godhood.

Who are the ones who supposedly can NOT know good and evil?

Also, just because you might know good and evil, this, in itself, does NOT stop you from doing wrong and evil things. And, 'you', adult human beings, have OBVIOUSLY NOT YET STOPPED doing wrong and evil things, in the days when this was being written. So, 'you' have OBVIOUSLY NOT YET reached Godhood AT ALL. In fact, the adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, were probably further AWAY from Godhood relative to ANY other period of human history. And, the so-called "most religious" are sometimes the MOST FURTHEST AWAY from Godhood.

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; Note the “Us”.

The 'Us' word, with the capital 'U' refers to when a group of individuals have become TOGETHER, as One.

The 'Us' does NOT refer to DIFFERENT Gods, and saying, "Are you 'a' God in waiting", does NOT mean that 'you' become 'a', (separate), God. Imagining there are SEPARATE Gods, and 'you' can become A God is just ANOTHER MISINTERPRETATION of 'things' here.

'you', human beings, through an evolutionary process, will TOGETHER become 'as One', and as such eventually become A God, which is ACTUALLY thee ONLY One God.

But just KNOWING Right from Wrong does NOT bring 'you' ALL, NOR individually, into this One and ONLY Godhood. 'you' have to be BEHAVING just like God DOES, and KNOWS HOW TO, to reach and being One WITH God.

But this all just FALLS INTO PLACE and just comes about Naturally.

Those foolish Christians who believe in the one supernatural God can never live their true naturalistic religion.

But absolutely NOTHING 'you' THINK nor SAY is FOOLISH, correct? And, EVERY thing 'you' BELIEVE is just PERFECTLY LOGICAL and make PERFECT SENSE, correct?

Those Christians can never be “Us”, as they see some major immoral sins as good. Homophobia and misogyny.

And there is NOTHING 'you' SEE that is a so-called "immoral sin" as being good, to ANOTHER, correct?

If no, then WHY can YOUR OWN "immoral sins as good" make 'you' one of 'Us'?

Unfortunately, they will never gain a Jesus consciousness or be elected to Christ.

If we take the words 'homophobia' and 'misogyny' to refer to the judgment and/or hatred of some 'human beings' as being an 'immoral sin', then WHY do you NOT take the the judgment and/or hatred of those 'human beings' with DIFFERENT views from YOURS, like the ones 'you' label as "christians", as an 'immoral sin' AS WELL?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

This just refers to thee Mind's EYE, of which there is ONLY One, which can and does SEE ALL. And this is because there is ONLY One Mind.

And, which is HOW the body, (the matter of the Universe), is ABLE to SEE, and/or KNOW, and UNDERSTAND ALL. The Mind's EYE SHINES a LIGHT on Everything, or ALL-OF-THIS.

When EVERY one is LOOKING FROM, and through, the 'perspective' of ALL, as One, single One, then the WHOLE (body) of the Universe SHINES BRIGHTLY, and so is ABLE TO be SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD. VERY SIMPLY and VERY EASILY, by the way.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The word 'children' refers to "jesus", and IS the second coming of "jesus", by the way.

The word 'man' refers to adults here. So, WHEN 'adults' Truly LOVE their 'children', ("a man love me"), (The word 'adult' refers to 'God' because it is ONLY 'adults' who CREATE the 'way of life' that ALL creatures HAVE TO LIVE WITH, and endure, on earth, and 'children' are just the "son of God", "jesus". And 'those' who BELIEVE 'in their children' FULLY, will EXPERIENCE and SEE the outcomes. Anyway), 'he' (the man/adult, God) WILL keep 'my word', the word of "jesus" or 'children', (children do NOT lie), 'children Father' will love 'him' is just OUR Father or God, which is just EVERY 'thing' as One, will come 'unto God', or reach Godhood, but ONLY when EVERY one is just DOING what they KNOW is Good AND Right, and make 'our abode WITH God', which is just creating a Truly LOVING, Peaceful AND Harmonious 'world', or 'way of life', with and for EVERY one as One. (Godhood-like).

Human beings 'abode' is earth, and when adult human beings are DOING the Right thing ONLY, then they are making and creating a Truly PEACEFUL and Harmonious 'world' and life here on earth, 'as it is IN Heaven', as some say.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

I find more Jesus consciousness in non-believers, than in the right-wing believers.

This is not to say that the right are not mostly good.

Most are not quite the best good, as they have let supernatural belief have them forget their predestined legacy.
Their single eye is closed.

Religiously speaking, if Christians are fearful of becoming Jesus like, it is no wonder that the only Christian denomination that does live his and her Christian religion, are Gnostic Christian.

Christian who are unaware of how he is supposed to interpret and live Christianity, should ask a Gnostic Christian.
What the inquisitors wrote into history to justify themselves, are mostly lies.

We died because we were the good Christians, who recognized our religious due and destiny.

We also died for naming the supernatural god, evil.

Jesus died for Gnostic Christians, not Constantine’s Christians.

As Jesus asked in the bible, have you forgotten that you are a God?

Step up to your destiny and single your eye.

The supernatural is killing our eco system.

Natural might be a lesser evil than un-natural supernatural.

Regards
DL

What does the word 'supernatural' mean or refer to, to you?

Do you not have a dictionary?

I do not propose a new definition.

As to the rest, saying that I am as bad as the ones I criticize, without showing how, is about what I expect from you.

Regards
DL

[bahman]

Well, the mind is immortal.

Then you have made a great discovery.

You must show me the pictures of where we hang around when not here.

Care to share the millions you will make from such a fantastic find?

Regards
DL

The reality is that we are trapped minds here and now. So we either get free or trapped with our dead bodies when we die. I think we should know certain things in order to get free. This question was asked before. So there are either minds who know the answer or not. We might get free in the first case and not in the second case. We will have the capacity to experience everything when we are free. The whole has infinite folds.

[bahman]

Are you a God in waiting, or have you stepped up to your destiny?

If one is created in God’s image, as you and I are, and can know good and evil, as most of us do, then if you believe the scriptures, you have reached Godhood.

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; Note the “Us”.

Those foolish Christians who believe in the one supernatural God can never live their true naturalistic religion.

Those Christians can never be “Us”, as they see some major immoral sins as good. Homophobia and misogyny.

Unfortunately, they will never gain a Jesus consciousness or be elected to Christ.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

I find more Jesus consciousness in non-believers, than in the right-wing believers.

This is not to say that the right are not mostly good.

Most are not quite the best good, as they have let supernatural belief have them forget their predestined legacy.
Their single eye is closed.

Religiously speaking, if Christians are fearful of becoming Jesus like, it is no wonder that the only Christian denomination that does live his and her Christian religion, are Gnostic Christian.

Christian who are unaware of how he is supposed to interpret and live Christianity, should ask a Gnostic Christian.
What the inquisitors wrote into history to justify themselves, are mostly lies.

We died because we were the good Christians, who recognized our religious due and destiny.

We also died for naming the supernatural god, evil.

Jesus died for Gnostic Christians, not Constantine’s Christians.

As Jesus asked in the bible, have you forgotten that you are a God?

Step up to your destiny and single your eye.

The supernatural is killing our eco system.

Natural might be a lesser evil than un-natural supernatural.

Regards
DL

We are minds who chose to live in this world imprisoned in our bodies, forgetting the past in order to have a sense of wonder!

'you', human beings, are the 'thoughts and emotions', WITHIN human 'bodies'.

Whereas,

'I' am the 'Mind', WITHIN the Universe.

Ok.

[bahman]

The supernatural is for the less bright.

Better to think and know this life than some imaginary life.

If you do not know what duality is, best to send you to google.

Think hot and cold or good and evil.

Regards
DL

Well, the mind is immortal.

Can you STILL NOT YET SEE that what you have been SAYING and CLAIMING in this forum IS CONTRADICTORY?

Saying, " 'we' are 'minds', 'mind' is 'eternal', and 'we/minds' have 'past lives' ", IS CONTRADICTORY.

I have an argument for that.

You KEEP saying this. AND, I KEEP telling you that just because one has an "argument" this does NOT mean that 'that argument' is a 'sound AND valid argument', and if 'an argument' is NOT sound AND valid, then 'that argument' is NOT even worth repeating.

YOUR 'arguments' are NOT 'sound AND valid arguments'. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and as have been PROVED True, ALREADY.

This means that the mind survives death.

HOW then can 'you', which 'you' CLAIM is a 'mind', logically CLAIM to have 'past lives' AS WELL AS 'survive death'.

Either one REMAINS ALIVE, OR, one has PAST LIVES.

One can NOT have BOTH.

So, which one IS 'it'?

Mind is very you, an irreducible substance with the ability to experience, decide and cause.

'you' are just the 'thoughts AND emotions', within an individual human body.

'you' are the sole result and sum of 'that body's' past experiences.

I have an argument for that too.

AND, 'that argument' is NOT 'sound AND valid'. Therefore, just about absolutely WORTHLESS and USELESS.

You survive death and can still experience if we accept these two.

Thee 'I' IS eternal, and thus ALWAYS.

'you', came INTO Existence through 'that body', and continued to CHANGE, until 'that body' stopped pumping blood and breathing. 'you', then however, have an ever-lasting effect on 'things' because of what 'that body' DID when 'it' was breathing and pumping blood.

This means that my suggestion, we are here because we chose, is valid considering the fact that life becomes miserable when you get used to everything.

So, to the 'one' known as "bahman" here, whatever "bahman" calls the 'we', then 'it' is 'eternal'.

So, what does the word 'we' mean, or refer to, EXACTLY, to 'you', "bahman"?

Ok. You are not even interested to know my argument. So I leave you alone.

[Age]

Are you a God in waiting, or have you stepped up to your destiny?

If one is created in God’s image, as you and I are, and can know good and evil, as most of us do, then if you believe the scriptures, you have reached Godhood.

Who are the ones who supposedly can NOT know good and evil?

Also, just because you might know good and evil, this, in itself, does NOT stop you from doing wrong and evil things. And, 'you', adult human beings, have OBVIOUSLY NOT YET STOPPED doing wrong and evil things, in the days when this was being written. So, 'you' have OBVIOUSLY NOT YET reached Godhood AT ALL. In fact, the adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, were probably further AWAY from Godhood relative to ANY other period of human history. And, the so-called "most religious" are sometimes the MOST FURTHEST AWAY from Godhood.

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; Note the “Us”.

The 'Us' word, with the capital 'U' refers to when a group of individuals have become TOGETHER, as One.

The 'Us' does NOT refer to DIFFERENT Gods, and saying, "Are you 'a' God in waiting", does NOT mean that 'you' become 'a', (separate), God. Imagining there are SEPARATE Gods, and 'you' can become A God is just ANOTHER MISINTERPRETATION of 'things' here.

'you', human beings, through an evolutionary process, will TOGETHER become 'as One', and as such eventually become A God, which is ACTUALLY thee ONLY One God.

But just KNOWING Right from Wrong does NOT bring 'you' ALL, NOR individually, into this One and ONLY Godhood. 'you' have to be BEHAVING just like God DOES, and KNOWS HOW TO, to reach and being One WITH God.

But this all just FALLS INTO PLACE and just comes about Naturally.

Those foolish Christians who believe in the one supernatural God can never live their true naturalistic religion.

But absolutely NOTHING 'you' THINK nor SAY is FOOLISH, correct? And, EVERY thing 'you' BELIEVE is just PERFECTLY LOGICAL and make PERFECT SENSE, correct?

Those Christians can never be “Us”, as they see some major immoral sins as good. Homophobia and misogyny.

And there is NOTHING 'you' SEE that is a so-called "immoral sin" as being good, to ANOTHER, correct?

If no, then WHY can YOUR OWN "immoral sins as good" make 'you' one of 'Us'?

Unfortunately, they will never gain a Jesus consciousness or be elected to Christ.

If we take the words 'homophobia' and 'misogyny' to refer to the judgment and/or hatred of some 'human beings' as being an 'immoral sin', then WHY do you NOT take the the judgment and/or hatred of those 'human beings' with DIFFERENT views from YOURS, like the ones 'you' label as "christians", as an 'immoral sin' AS WELL?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

This just refers to thee Mind's EYE, of which there is ONLY One, which can and does SEE ALL. And this is because there is ONLY One Mind.

And, which is HOW the body, (the matter of the Universe), is ABLE to SEE, and/or KNOW, and UNDERSTAND ALL. The Mind's EYE SHINES a LIGHT on Everything, or ALL-OF-THIS.

When EVERY one is LOOKING FROM, and through, the 'perspective' of ALL, as One, single One, then the WHOLE (body) of the Universe SHINES BRIGHTLY, and so is ABLE TO be SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD. VERY SIMPLY and VERY EASILY, by the way.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The word 'children' refers to "jesus", and IS the second coming of "jesus", by the way.

The word 'man' refers to adults here. So, WHEN 'adults' Truly LOVE their 'children', ("a man love me"), (The word 'adult' refers to 'God' because it is ONLY 'adults' who CREATE the 'way of life' that ALL creatures HAVE TO LIVE WITH, and endure, on earth, and 'children' are just the "son of God", "jesus". And 'those' who BELIEVE 'in their children' FULLY, will EXPERIENCE and SEE the outcomes. Anyway), 'he' (the man/adult, God) WILL keep 'my word', the word of "jesus" or 'children', (children do NOT lie), 'children Father' will love 'him' is just OUR Father or God, which is just EVERY 'thing' as One, will come 'unto God', or reach Godhood, but ONLY when EVERY one is just DOING what they KNOW is Good AND Right, and make 'our abode WITH God', which is just creating a Truly LOVING, Peaceful AND Harmonious 'world', or 'way of life', with and for EVERY one as One. (Godhood-like).

Human beings 'abode' is earth, and when adult human beings are DOING the Right thing ONLY, then they are making and creating a Truly PEACEFUL and Harmonious 'world' and life here on earth, 'as it is IN Heaven', as some say.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

I find more Jesus consciousness in non-believers, than in the right-wing believers.

This is not to say that the right are not mostly good.

Most are not quite the best good, as they have let supernatural belief have them forget their predestined legacy.
Their single eye is closed.

Religiously speaking, if Christians are fearful of becoming Jesus like, it is no wonder that the only Christian denomination that does live his and her Christian religion, are Gnostic Christian.

Christian who are unaware of how he is supposed to interpret and live Christianity, should ask a Gnostic Christian.
What the inquisitors wrote into history to justify themselves, are mostly lies.

We died because we were the good Christians, who recognized our religious due and destiny.

We also died for naming the supernatural god, evil.

Jesus died for Gnostic Christians, not Constantine’s Christians.

As Jesus asked in the bible, have you forgotten that you are a God?

Step up to your destiny and single your eye.

The supernatural is killing our eco system.

Natural might be a lesser evil than un-natural supernatural.

Regards
DL

What does the word 'supernatural' mean or refer to, to you?

Do you not have a dictionary?

Were you NOT YET AWARE that DIFFERENT dictionaries provide DIFFERENT definitions and meanings?

If no, then you are NOW.

I do not propose a new definition.

You do not propose a 'new' definition in relation to 'what' definition?

As to the rest, saying that I am as bad as the ones I criticize, without showing how, is about what I expect from you.

Regards
DL

I SHOWED HOW, but you just MISSED HOW.

SEE, I write, and then WAIT for those who ARE Truly INTERESTED. And, those who ARE Truly INTERESTED in regards to what I write and CLAIM, WILL ask the CLARIFYING QUESTIONS and/or put us some sort of CHALLENGE. You have done NEITHER.

However, because you have had a little WHINGE here, due to your OWN INABILITIES, I will now SHOW and REVEAL, ONCE MORE, HOW you are as bad as the ones who you criticize.

You made the MOST ABSURD and JUDGMENTAL CLAIM:
"Those Christians can never be “Us”, as they see some major immoral sins as good."

I CLAIM that you are committing an 'immoral sin' but just doing what you did here. That is; you are criticizing "others" for seeing 'some' major 'immoral sins' as being good, YET you are ACTUALLY doing, and thus committing, 'the' greatest 'immoral sin' of all in the process. This is to what the word 'sin' ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY MEANS and REFERS TO, EXACTLY. Therefore, you are as bad as the ones you criticize. But this is just what 'you', adult human beings, DO. That is; JUDGE and CRITICIZE each "other". Which makes 'you' ALL just as 'bad' as "one another". But not to fret over this, because 'you' will ALL evolve out of this Wrong behavior, that is; when 'you' LEARN and DISCOVER the reason WHY 'you' are ALL the way 'you' ARE.

AND, what makes what you SAID and CLAIMED here all the MORE ABSURD and HYSTERICAL is the implication that 'you', "greatest i am", is ALREADY HERE WITH 'Us'. 'you' STILL have a LONG WAY to go YET.

[Age]

Well, the mind is immortal.

Then you have made a great discovery.

Thee Mind is immortal. But, contrary to popular BELIEF, in the days when this was being written, there was and ALWAYS IS ONLY One Mind.

You must show me the pictures of where we hang around when not here.

If the 'we' word here refers to 'you', human beings, then WHERE 'you' "hang around" is just HERE, in this One Universe, on earth, and in its relatively very small 'backyard'.

Care to share the millions you will make from such a fantastic find?

Regards
DL

Here is FURTHER PROOF of how the adult human beings, back in the days when this was being written, were solely focused on 'money'.

Just about EVERY 'thing' they did, was for 'money'. And, they had become SO GREEDY and SELFISH that they even wanted to obtain more 'money' just from the absolutely FREE 'thoughts', which arose inside those bodies. The adult human being in the days when this was being written REALLY WERE the MOST SELFISH and GREEDY humans throughout ALL of human history. Luckily for 'Us', however, and thankfully to 'them' they WOKE UP to "themselves" WHEN THEY DID.

[Age]

Well, the mind is immortal.

Then you have made a great discovery.

You must show me the pictures of where we hang around when not here.

Care to share the millions you will make from such a fantastic find?

Regards
DL

The reality is that we are trapped minds here and now.

WHERE and WHEN is the 'here and now', which 'you' refer to here?

If 'you' are 'trapped minds', then how does that WORK WITH 'your' CLAIM that 'mind' is IMMORTAL and ETERNAL?

How, EXACTLY, can an IMMORTAL and ETERNAL 'thing' become "trapped"?

Who or what is "trapping" 'you' IMMORTAL and ETERNAL "minds"? Or, are 'you' doing this "YOURSELVES"?

So we either get free or trapped with our dead bodies when we die.

The MORE you write the MORE ILLOGICAL and ABSURD you SOUND.

You, at times, are SO CLOSE to thee One and ONLY ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth of 'things', but then you write 'things' like you did just here now.

I think we should know certain things in order to get free.

AND, when you come to KNOW what 'we' ALREADY KNOW, then there is ONLY 'FREE'.

This question was asked before.

'What' question?

So there are either minds who know the answer or not.

But there is ONLY One Mind. How MANY TIMES do 'you' have to be TOLD and INFORMED of this IRREFUTABLE Fact BEFORE you come to KNOW this Fact?

Oh, and by the way, when 'you' LEARN and UNDERSTAND, and thus KNOW, this Fact, then 'you' also become FAR MORE FREE.

We might get free in the first case and not in the second case. We will have the capacity to experience everything when we are free. The whole has infinite folds.

The biggest reason WHY 'you', adult human beings, are NOT YET FREE, and thus ARE TRAPPED, is because of the BELIEFS that 'you' HOLD ONTO and MAINTAIN, DEARLY.

As PROVED IRREFUTABLY True throughout this thread, forum, and human history.

[Age]

We are minds who chose to live in this world imprisoned in our bodies, forgetting the past in order to have a sense of wonder!

'you', human beings, are the 'thoughts and emotions', WITHIN human 'bodies'.

Whereas,

'I' am the 'Mind', WITHIN the Universe.

Ok.

AND, just so 'you' are AWARE what 'I' have said and claimed NO one could REFUTED.

[Age]

Well, the mind is immortal.

Can you STILL NOT YET SEE that what you have been SAYING and CLAIMING in this forum IS CONTRADICTORY?

Saying, " 'we' are 'minds', 'mind' is 'eternal', and 'we/minds' have 'past lives' ", IS CONTRADICTORY.

I have an argument for that.

You KEEP saying this. AND, I KEEP telling you that just because one has an "argument" this does NOT mean that 'that argument' is a 'sound AND valid argument', and if 'an argument' is NOT sound AND valid, then 'that argument' is NOT even worth repeating.

YOUR 'arguments' are NOT 'sound AND valid arguments'. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and as have been PROVED True, ALREADY.

This means that the mind survives death.

HOW then can 'you', which 'you' CLAIM is a 'mind', logically CLAIM to have 'past lives' AS WELL AS 'survive death'.

Either one REMAINS ALIVE, OR, one has PAST LIVES.

One can NOT have BOTH.

So, which one IS 'it'?

Mind is very you, an irreducible substance with the ability to experience, decide and cause.

'you' are just the 'thoughts AND emotions', within an individual human body.

'you' are the sole result and sum of 'that body's' past experiences.

I have an argument for that too.

AND, 'that argument' is NOT 'sound AND valid'. Therefore, just about absolutely WORTHLESS and USELESS.

You survive death and can still experience if we accept these two.

Thee 'I' IS eternal, and thus ALWAYS.

'you', came INTO Existence through 'that body', and continued to CHANGE, until 'that body' stopped pumping blood and breathing. 'you', then however, have an ever-lasting effect on 'things' because of what 'that body' DID when 'it' was breathing and pumping blood.

This means that my suggestion, we are here because we chose, is valid considering the fact that life becomes miserable when you get used to everything.

So, to the 'one' known as "bahman" here, whatever "bahman" calls the 'we', then 'it' is 'eternal'.

So, what does the word 'we' mean, or refer to, EXACTLY, to 'you', "bahman"?

Ok. You are not even interested to know my argument. So I leave you alone.

I am the ONE who is asking YOU CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. YOU are the ONE who is NOT interested in answering them.

YOU leave ME alone because YOUR so-called "arguments" are NOT sound and valid and because you can NOT 'refute' what I say and claim.

As for your CLAIM that I am NOT interested to know your so-called "arguments", then the one that you have ALREADY expressed I have ALREADY questioned and challenged you on them. You are the one who has FAILED to CLARIFY and/or counter the CHALLENGES.

If you want to CLAIM, "I have an argument", then I strongly suggest you PROVIDE ALL of "them". Or, EACH and EVERY time you say 'that' are you WAITING for someone to expressly SAY, "show me your argument"?

From what I have experienced so far when I have requested you to provide "your argument", you just provide an argument that you have previously provided, and which I had ALREADY QUESTIONED you about and CHALLENGED you on. And, when I POINT OUT the Falsehoods, Wrongness, and/or Incorrectness of "your arguments" you REFUSE to acknowledge them, and you just say things like; "I BELIEVE what is my arguments is true anyway".

But, by all means, if you have a so-called "argument" that you would like to share with 'me' or 'us' here, then please go ahead and share it. That way all of 'us' reading this can SEE if "your argument" is sound and valid or not.

[Age]

The word 'you' refers to a human being.

While 'one' is and remains a 'you', that 'one' is still in the process of evolving out of and past the 'human being' stage of evolution. Thus, that 'one', it could be said and argued, is still in the 'waiting' stage, before they move UP into the next evolutionary 'rung of the ladder' in Life, Itself.

Once 'you', human beings, move up to the next step, then 'you' step UP and ONTO the next and final stage of Life, and become One WITH 'Us', as God.

Through an evolutionary process Life, It Self, comes to KNOW thy Self. The human being stage, through that evolutionary process, was just the last and final stage before 'I' came to KNOW thy Self, and, literally, become One with God. Which the 'I', Itself, has ALWAYS BEEN, but who 'you' were ALWAYS destined to ALSO BE-come.

In other words, only when the 'you' can answe the question, 'Who am 'I'?', properly and correctly, then 'you', have, literally, 'stepped up to 'your' destiny'.

Until then 'you', literally, have NO clue as to WHO and WHAT 'I' AM and 'you' ARE. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED IRREFUTABLY True throughout human history, hitherto, in the days when this was being written.

[bahman]

'you', human beings, are the 'thoughts and emotions', WITHIN human 'bodies'.

Whereas,

'I' am the 'Mind', WITHIN the Universe.

Ok.

AND, just so 'you' are AWARE what 'I' have said and claimed NO one could REFUTED.

As you wish to believe.

[bahman]

Can you STILL NOT YET SEE that what you have been SAYING and CLAIMING in this forum IS CONTRADICTORY?

Saying, " 'we' are 'minds', 'mind' is 'eternal', and 'we/minds' have 'past lives' ", IS CONTRADICTORY.


You KEEP saying this. AND, I KEEP telling you that just because one has an "argument" this does NOT mean that 'that argument' is a 'sound AND valid argument', and if 'an argument' is NOT sound AND valid, then 'that argument' is NOT even worth repeating.

YOUR 'arguments' are NOT 'sound AND valid arguments'. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and as have been PROVED True, ALREADY.



HOW then can 'you', which 'you' CLAIM is a 'mind', logically CLAIM to have 'past lives' AS WELL AS 'survive death'.

Either one REMAINS ALIVE, OR, one has PAST LIVES.

One can NOT have BOTH.

So, which one IS 'it'?



'you' are just the 'thoughts AND emotions', within an individual human body.

'you' are the sole result and sum of 'that body's' past experiences.



AND, 'that argument' is NOT 'sound AND valid'. Therefore, just about absolutely WORTHLESS and USELESS.


Thee 'I' IS eternal, and thus ALWAYS.

'you', came INTO Existence through 'that body', and continued to CHANGE, until 'that body' stopped pumping blood and breathing. 'you', then however, have an ever-lasting effect on 'things' because of what 'that body' DID when 'it' was breathing and pumping blood.



So, to the 'one' known as "bahman" here, whatever "bahman" calls the 'we', then 'it' is 'eternal'.

So, what does the word 'we' mean, or refer to, EXACTLY, to 'you', "bahman"?

Ok. You are not even interested to know my argument. So I leave you alone.

I am the ONE who is asking YOU CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. YOU are the ONE who is NOT interested in answering them.

YOU leave ME alone because YOUR so-called "arguments" are NOT sound and valid and because you can NOT 'refute' what I say and claim.

As for your CLAIM that I am NOT interested to know your so-called "arguments", then the one that you have ALREADY expressed I have ALREADY questioned and challenged you on them. You are the one who has FAILED to CLARIFY and/or counter the CHALLENGES.

If you want to CLAIM, "I have an argument", then I strongly suggest you PROVIDE ALL of "them". Or, EACH and EVERY time you say 'that' are you WAITING for someone to expressly SAY, "show me your argument"?

From what I have experienced so far when I have requested you to provide "your argument", you just provide an argument that you have previously provided, and which I had ALREADY QUESTIONED you about and CHALLENGED you on. And, when I POINT OUT the Falsehoods, Wrongness, and/or Incorrectness of "your arguments" you REFUSE to acknowledge them, and you just say things like; "I BELIEVE what is my arguments is true anyway".

But, by all means, if you have a so-called "argument" that you would like to share with 'me' or 'us' here, then please go ahead and share it. That way all of 'us' reading this can SEE if "your argument" is sound and valid or not.

You are talking about the refutation of my argument. Do you know what argument I am talking about? Can you refer me to the thread in which I discussed the argument?