RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:08 am
But EVERY body is born with a desire to live and be kept alive.
Nope!
Okay. I MUST BE Wrong here, and, you MUST BE Right here, correct?
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
Except for the physical appetites, the ability to desire, like the mind, is completely blank at birth and must be learned and developed.
What is this 'mind' thing you talk of here?
What does 'it' do, and, how does 'it' work, EXACTLY?
But the 'desire' I am TALKING ABOUT is the 'physical appetites'. So, WHY say, "Nope!" Especially considering we are talking about the EXACT SAME 'thing'?
I even used the word 'body' here when I nearly ALWAYS use the word 'one' instead.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
One cannot desire anything until they first learn that it exists, what it is, and that it is something to be desired.
Did you NOT SEE I used the word 'body' here, and NOT the word 'one'?
WHY did you use the word 'one' when I was NOT talking about 'one'?
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
No one has a desire, "to live," until they know what life is, that they are living, and that it is something they have any choice about.
I said EVERY 'body', for the VERY SPECIFIC REASON that when one watches observes a ANY new born 'BODY' what can be CLEARLY SEEN is that will do ALL they can to GAIN ATTENTION so that will be, literally, LISTENED TO, RECOGNIZED, and ACCEPTED for 'who they are'. That is; a new born baby WANTING and DESIRING to STAY ALIVE. And this is WHY it keeps SEEKING out what 'it' NEEDS to live and survive.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
What do you think a desire is?
This is WHY asking CLARIFYING questions can VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY HELD the 'one' that they are posed to.
' a strong feeling of wanting, or a strong want or wishing, of or for some 'thing' '.
The word 'desire' although could probably be more in relation to a 'person', a 'you', than to a 'body', could it be said, or argued, that ''body', itself, can 'desire' 'things', then if not, then I will 'have to' change my sentence above;
EVERY body is born with a desire to live and be kept alive and replace the word 'desire' with a word that works.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
I can send you link if you'd like to know.
Yes send me a link.
And, if you EVER do, and there is a definition for the word 'desire', then is that thee one and ONLY 'definition'?
And, I will ask ANY other CLARIFYING questions AFTER you send that link.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm
For someone who styles himself, "Age," many of your views are very puerile.
But I do NOT 'style' thy 'Self' "age". I just used the word "age" as a label, name, or username ONLY.
As for "himself", what EXACTLY are you basing this ASSUMPTION on, EXACTLY?
And, if you think or BELIEVE that ANY of my views are "childish, silly, and/or immature", then just POINT them OUT and HIGHLIGHT them, and then EXPLAIN WHY you find them to be that way.
If you do NOT, then you are doing what most of the posters here do most of the time. That is; MAKE CLAIMS without EVER backing up and supporting them.
Also, WHY do so many of 'you', posters, here in this forum 'try' and do what 'you', "rcsaunders", just 'tried' to do and instead of just continue on with discussing, you turn your words into LOOKING AT the 'person', or 'their views, by making VERY childish, silly, and/or immature remarks ABOUT the 'other's views'?
If the views of "another", to you, are "immature", "childish", "silly", or ANY other thing, then INSTEAD of just saying, "they are", how about you EXPLAIN WHY?
This kind of behavior appears to happen, consistently, when what they were 'trying to' argue for is SHOWN to be False, Wrong, and/or Incorrect.
ATTEMPTS at DETRACTION is VERY COMMON in this forum.
If you do NOT want, nor desire, to use the word 'desire' to describe the ACTUAL actions or behaviors of the human body, itself, just after birth, when 'it' SEEKS OUT air, food, and/or attention, for 'its' ACTUAL continual survival, then what word would you say works MUCH BETTER?
How about instead of 'trying to' call my views "names", as though that would affect me, how about just TELLING us what is ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY True, INSTEAD?