The Creation of the Term "God"

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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:53 am
Age wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:46 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am

Infinity, that which is without known beginning nor ending, cannot make sense.
BUT it ALL makes PERFECT sense, that is; if and when one LOOKS properly AND correctly.

In Fact when things are LOOKED AT, properly AND correctly, the beginning AND ending of 'infinity' is SEEN, CRYSTAL CLEAR, which creates PERFECT sense.
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am Everything known is a mind constructed concept.
Which is WHY ANY thing KNOWN is thee ACTUAL Truth, which could NEVER be refuted, EVER.
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am The known doesn't have to make sense,
BUT the KNOWN does make sense. It is the THINKING that sometimes does NOT make sense.
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am insofar as what the heck is the MIND..except what imagination says it is. Then again, what is imagination?
Thee 'Mind' is ALWAYS OPEN, and is the very Thing that allows 'you', human beings, to be able to imagine, invent, devise, and create absolutely ANY thing and EVERY thing that 'you' have. Thee 'Mind' is thee True Intelligence within, which allows thee True Creator to express and show or REVEAL Itself.
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am You make your own sense. Who else is going to make it?

It's no coincidence that the word CON is in ''consensus'' :D

And in consciousness, and in conscience, and in concept. :roll:

What is consciousness?
Awareness.
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am Exactly! :oops:
What here exactly is 'exactly'?
The opposite is also true.
To who?
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:53 am The opposite is also perfect.
True.
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:53 am Truth is prior to proof, no futher inquiry necessary.
Thee ACTUAL Truth exists, ALWAYS. But HOW does one obtain thee ACTUAL Truth, legitimately, if they do NOT obtain PROOF, FIRST?
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:53 am Self evidence, is it's own evidence. There is no 'evidence police' outside of your own self evident knowing.
But who and/or what KNOWS that there EXISTS self-evidence.

Who and/or what is the 'self', which self-evidence is self-evident to, EXACTLY?
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:38 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:56 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:32 pm If God is the creator and man is made in the image of God then man is a creator; therefore the creation of the term "God" is man working in image of the creator with the creator creating the creator through the created.
This is nonsense.
Infinity, that which is without known beginning nor ending, cannot make sense.
Your statment has begining and end, yet is is still nonsense.

Everything known is a mind constructed concept. The known doesn't have to make sense, insofar as what the heck is the MIND..except what imagination says it is. Then again, what is imagination?
You seem confused.
Maybe you should ask these questions and take on the answers?

You make your own sense. Who else is going to make it?
If you are the only one that things is makes sense then that is usually an indication of madness.

It's no coincidence that the word CON is in ''consensus'' :D
No.
There are perfectly reasonable etymological reasons for that. Why not try to educate yourself?

And in consciousness, and in conscience, and in concept. :roll:
https://www.etymonline.com
Maybe of some use to you.
(though I doubt it)
Con is short for confidence trick.


What is consciousness?

Exactly! :oops:
It's not difficult.
Latin conscius (con- "together" and scio "to know")
Latin confidentia, from confidentem (nominative confidens) "firmly trusting, bold,

A confidence TRICK is a breach of confidence. The clue is in the word TRICK.
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Re: The Creation of the Term "God"

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Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:43 pm

This is nonsense.
Despite your mad roving ramblings.

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
If God is the creator and man is made in the image of God then man is a creator; therefore the creation of the term "God" is man working in image of the creator with the creator creating the creator through the created.
The above quote is accurately correct.
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:22 am
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:43 pm

This is nonsense.
Despite your mad roving ramblings.
My perfectly sane, rational and considered comments could only appear as "roving rambling" to a congenital idiot.
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
If God is the creator and man is made in the image of God then man is a creator; therefore the creation of the term "God" is man working in image of the creator with the creator creating the creator through the created.
The above quote is accurately correct.
If God is the creator and man is made in the image of God then man is a creator;
This comment is not only wrong, it is inherently self defeating.
Is this true?
A dog lays a shit, the shit is in the image of a duck then the duck lays a shit.
Try this one:
Oddbod bakes a cake; the cake is in the shape of a cat, then the cat is the baker
You are a pair of morons.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:48 pm My perfectly sane, rational and considered comments could only appear as "roving rambling" to a congenital idiot.
An ''idiot'' is a figment of your own imagination, it is also a trick you play on yourself, as you construct 'me' as a someone else from your own self. Ta da!! 8)


Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:48 pm This comment is not only wrong, it is inherently self defeating.
Is this true?
A dog lays a shit, the shit is in the image of a duck then the duck lays a shit.
Try this one:
Oddbod bakes a cake; the cake is in the shape of a cat, then the cat is the baker
You are a pair of morons.
There is no distinction between the creator and the created - except conceptually.

Might as well just call a cat a baker, or a cake a duck, or a moron a dog, or a shit an oddbod...In reality, all these created concepts are constructed from the same mind, which is you the creator. The mind being pure infinite emptiness, in the form of whatever this mind imagines itself to be. :lol:

There is no self that can defeat itself. The Self is Infinity. I've never heard of two infinities where one beats the shit out of the other just so that it can say I win and you are the loser.. But hey, if you have heard of two infinities, then that would sure as hell and heaven make for another highly delicious, and rather salacious story, that may even surpass the ethics of those other two great imagined story books known as the Bible and Koran.




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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:21 pm There is no distinction between the creator and the created - except conceptually.

Yeah it must be so difficult for you thinking that your table is the same a carpenter. :roll:
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Dontaskme is exactly the same as the shit he took this morning .... except conceptually.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:57 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:21 pm There is no distinction between the creator and the created - except conceptually.

Yeah it must be so difficult for you thinking that your table is the same a carpenter. :roll:
In the metaphorical sense, since we are talking about the terminology that is known as 'God' here...there is no table without a carpenter, and no carpenter without a table. Each create the other in the exact same instance of conceptual understanding, recognition, and ultimate knowing. Knowing is always ONE with itself, therefore, it's indiscernible in that there is no other 'knowing' In other words, One is identical to Zero.

All concepts are sourced from the exact same place, namely their knowing SOURCE...which is everywhere and nowhere simultaneously, which is the exact same place. there is a local knowing but that is always couched within the same one source appearing as an illusory local source.

Hope you enjoyed my metaphysics as much as I did 8)

All your knowing is metaphysical by it's very nature, and not physical by nature. That knowing is a fact.

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Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:58 pm Dontaskme is exactly the same as the shit he took this morning .... except conceptually.
Yes, that is correct, She, is both the who and the poo simultaneously, any distinction is purely conceptual, in other words, an artificial overlay upon the ever present mystery of reality.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:26 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:58 pm Dontaskme is exactly the same as the shit he took this morning .... except conceptually.
Yes, that is correct, She, is both the who and the poo simultaneously, any distinction is purely conceptual, in other words, an artificial overlay upon the ever present mystery of reality.
Yes you are shit - we all get that.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:02 am
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:26 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:58 pm Dontaskme is exactly the same as the shit he took this morning .... except conceptually.
Yes, that is correct, She, is both the who and the poo simultaneously, any distinction is purely conceptual, in other words, an artificial overlay upon the ever present mystery of reality.
Yes you are shit - we all get that.
Good, then we are all clear about that then.
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Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:56 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:32 pm If God is the creator and man is made in the image of God then man is a creator; therefore the creation of the term "God" is man working in image of the creator with the creator creating the creator through the created.
This is nonsense.
If this is nonsense then what is 'sensical'?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:43 pm
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:56 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:32 pm If God is the creator and man is made in the image of God then man is a creator; therefore the creation of the term "God" is man working in image of the creator with the creator creating the creator through the created.
This is nonsense.
If this is nonsense then what is 'sensical'?
Plenty.
If nothing is sensical then your question is meaningless.

You are proposing a syllogism.
If god is the creator
If man is made in god image
THEN
Man is the creator.

This is a false syllogism.

You can examine a logical syllogism by exchanging the elements for something more familiar..

If carpenter is the creator
And tables are made in the image of carpenter
THEN
Is a table the creator.

FUCK NO.
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:16 pm

If carpenter is the creator
And tables are made in the image of carpenter
THEN
Is a table the creator.

FUCK NO.
You are missing the point.

No one has ever SEEN God. No one has ever SEEN any concept. Concepts are only KNOWN...by that which is unseen, and unknowable.

Concepts are absolutely KNOWN since that which is known can never become unknown.
The SEEN can never be unseen. ''Seeing'' is not what ''thought'' thinks it is.
Seeing means Knowing. Seeing and Knowing are identical, they are indistinguishable sensations.
You can KNOW fire is hot without ever thinking about it. Without even placing the concept ''fire is hot'' onto the sensation of knowing.

No one ever created a thing, nor was there ever a thing called a creator. These are simple imagined known concepts.

An object is KNOWN, and that which is KNOWN cannot see or know anything...as the idea of a TABLE demonstrates.
A table is a concept known, a table cannot see or know anything. The table only exists as an imagined conceptual thing known only to it's creator, which again is also a known concept.
If you break this down even further, a table was once a tree, so is the table a tree, and is a tree a wood, and is the table a wood or a tree? :lol:

Although concepts can never be anything other than what they are known for, no concept actually exists as a real thing in and of itself, separate from it's creator which is imagination.

A creator has no image, a creator can only reflect an image of itself as and through it's own imagined creation reflected back at it, in the form of an object. The 'looker' and the 'looked upon' are the same one reality. Just try separating the looker from what it's looking at, it's impossible, except through the mental realm of concepts, which is an artificial overlay upon what is always and ever this immediate nondual reality.

You are confusing ''physical things'' to be reality. When the opposite is also true, reality is non-physical, it's totally mental.

No creator has ever been seen, a creator is only KNOWN as and through it's own imagined creation as a physical object.

No one has ever seen a table, it's only a concept known, by the only knowing there is which is the creator of the known concept, which by definition also creates the idea of the creator in the exact same instance of knowing.

Try to fool yourself again, it's fun game you only ever play with yourself. 8) We're all a little mad here, including you. 8)

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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:14 pm
Sculptor wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:16 pm

If carpenter is the creator
And tables are made in the image of carpenter
THEN
Is a table the creator.

FUCK NO.
You are missing the point.

No one has ever SEEN God. No one has ever SEEN any concept. Concepts are only KNOWN...by that which is unseen, and unknowable.
You are making a logical claim not an empirical claim. Even if there was emprical evidence you would still be wrong, and in the absence of emprical evidence are are logically wrong.

So, no. You are missing the point.

Concepts are absolutely KNOWN since that which is known can never become unknown.
[/quote]Irrelevant and false
The SEEN can never be unseen. ''Seeing'' is not what ''thought'' thinks it is.
Irrelevant and false

Seeing means Knowing. Seeing and Knowing are identical, they are indistinguishable sensations.
Irrelevant and false

You can KNOW fire is hot without ever thinking about it. Without even placing the concept ''fire is hot'' onto the sensation of knowing.

No one ever created a thing, nor was there ever a thing called a creator. These are simple imagined known concepts.

An object is KNOWN, and that which is KNOWN cannot see or know anything...as the idea of a TABLE demonstrates.
A table is a concept known, a table cannot see or know anything. The table only exists as an imagined conceptual thing known only to it's creator, which again is also a known concept.
If you break this down even further, a table was once a tree, so is the table a tree, and is a tree a wood, and is the table a wood or a tree? :lol:

Although concepts can never be anything other than what they are known for, no concept actually exists as a real thing in and of itself, separate from it's creator which is imagination.

A creator has no image, a creator can only reflect an image of itself as and through it's own imagined creation reflected back at it, in the form of an object. The 'looker' and the 'looked upon' are the same one reality. Just try separating the looker from what it's looking at, it's impossible, except through the mental realm of concepts, which is an artificial overlay upon what is always and ever this immediate nondual reality.

You are confusing ''physical things'' to be reality. When the opposite is also true, reality is non-physical, it's totally mental.
INo I am not
And the fact that we can only know mentally does not advance your case, you have no case. You are still talking bollocks


No creator has ever been seen,
That being the case you may only remain silent upon the subject.
a creator is only KNOWN as and through it's own imagined creation as a physical object.

No one has ever seen a table, it's only a concept known, by the only knowing there is which is the creator of the known concept, which by definition also creates the idea of the creator in the exact same instance of knowing.

Try to fool yourself again, it's fun game you only ever play with yourself. 8) We're all a little mad here, including you. 8)

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