"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

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The ''Word'' is the label that "what-ever-it-is" gives to itself and in so doing creates another conceptualised object that it mistakes for a separate existential entity.It then tries to define this objectified entity by using other labels.

It's how the illusory pseudo appearance of self, tricks itself into being an object of it's desire. The phenomena is known to itself only as a self-sustaining self-perpetuating mental feedback loop. In other words, nothing is happening. Nothing is observing itself, desiring itself, creating itself, and nothing is reporting it's observations. This is simply known, because ultimately nothing knows itself. It's all hopeless.


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you don't say...

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Impenitent wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:53 pm you don't say...

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Did you create God ? or did God create you?

A 'concept known' aka the concept ( 'You' or 'God' ) implies there is a knower, which implies there is some thing/conceptual to know.
The knower of the known concept can only be you. You are the knowing. Where else does knowing come from except from you?

Therefore, only you created you. And you created every thing known to you, including the known concept you call God.

Therefore you are God. You created God, and God created you in the exact same instant of knowing, because both the knower and the known is this fundamental direct experience of relative identification. The idea in your mind as a concept known, is inseparable from the knower, which is you.

Therefore everything known is you.

You can only know what is known to you, so upon the death of your body, everything you have known will disappear as though everything you knew never existed. Things can only be known to exist when you the knower of things exist.

You are what you know, because everything you know can only be known by you. There is nothing that can be known without a knower to know it, the knower is you, the only knowing there is.

Therefore, as the knower, you do not need faith, or need belief, or need to petition for favorable outcomes, by rejecting undesirable outcomes. You are already perfect just as you are. And what you are just is, and what just is, can never be what isn't is.

This knowing is a fundamental direct experience of being you. You is the only true source out of which every known thing is known.



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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:03 am The ''Word'' is the label that "what-ever-it-is" gives to itself and in so doing creates another conceptualised object that it mistakes for a separate existential entity.
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You are God. You created God, space and time and everything under the sun.

Intelligent people knew instinctively how to unlearn their excessive self-serving craving for self-adulation.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:03 am The ''Word'' is the label that "what-ever-it-is" gives to itself and in so doing creates another conceptualised object that it mistakes for a separate existential entity.It then tries to define this objectified entity by using other labels.

It's how the illusory pseudo appearance of self, tricks itself into being an object of it's desire. The phenomena is known to itself only as a self-sustaining self-perpetuating mental feedback loop. In other words, nothing is happening. Nothing is observing itself, desiring itself, creating itself, and nothing is reporting it's observations. This is simply known, because ultimately nothing knows itself. It's all hopeless.


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The creation story is the observation of a higher power through the lense of time, it is a relativistic story considering it is from the relative perspective of man bound by time and space.

A mental feedback loop where one thing repeats itself necessitates other being than "self" considering repetition necessitates a sense of void between phenomena. To repeat is to individuate where the repeated entity is a distinct phenomenon in itself given it exists in a seperate time and space. This is paradoxical as it points out that supreme source as both unified and existing in a state of multiplicity. This dualism, existing as one, necessitates reality as both created and uncreated.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:06 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:03 am The ''Word'' is the label that "what-ever-it-is" gives to itself and in so doing creates another conceptualised object that it mistakes for a separate existential entity.It then tries to define this objectified entity by using other labels.

It's how the illusory pseudo appearance of self, tricks itself into being an object of it's desire. The phenomena is known to itself only as a self-sustaining self-perpetuating mental feedback loop. In other words, nothing is happening. Nothing is observing itself, desiring itself, creating itself, and nothing is reporting it's observations. This is simply known, because ultimately nothing knows itself. It's all hopeless.


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The creation story is the observation of a higher power through the lense of time, it is a relativistic story considering it is from the relative perspective of man bound by time and space.

A mental feedback loop where one thing repeats itself necessitates other being than "self" considering repetition necessitates a sense of void between phenomena. To repeat is to individuate where the repeated entity is a distinct phenomenon in itself given it exists in a seperate time and space. This is paradoxical as it points out that supreme source as both unified and existing in a state of multiplicity. This dualism, existing as one, necessitates reality as both created and uncreated.
I agree with you.
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