Barking up the wrong tree of life

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

Post Reply
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16940
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Dontaskme »

CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY
spiritual existence after death of the body.
"the belief in eternal life"
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16940
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Dontaskme »

According to the English language, “eternal” means “without beginning or end, always existing, lasting forever.

So the claim “I am the knower” is wrong - for there is absolutely no knowledge of anything existing without beginning or end…no thing lasts forever.

Knowledge is an illusion. Therefore all meaning and point is born of what is fundamentally totally meaningless and pointless.
Walker
Posts: 14347
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Walker »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm According to the English language, “eternal” means “without beginning or end, always existing, lasting forever.
That defines the present, where reality is.

Knowledge is an inference.

"I Am is true, all else is inference."
- Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj


The logic of this quote is ironclad.
It is irrefutable, and answers your every metaphysical wonderment.
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16940
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Dontaskme »

Walker wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:06 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm According to the English language, “eternal” means “without beginning or end, always existing, lasting forever.
That defines the present, where reality is.

Knowledge is an inference.

"I Am is true, all else is inference."
- Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj


The logic of this quote is ironclad.
It is irrefutable, and answers your every metaphysical wonderment.
The quote is wrong.

It’s a claim without a claimer. It’s an illusion believed to be literal, by the illusion itself.
Knowledge therefore can only point to the illusory nature of reality.

To know can only appear as a duality which is the mirror image of no thing/ nonduality

No thing can ever be eternal.

Religion has had the brain fooled since it’s conception…there is no God because there is only God. And God is not what humans think it is.
Walker
Posts: 14347
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Walker »

Dontaskme wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:03 pm No thing can ever be eternal.
That means the present ain't a thang.
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16940
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Dontaskme »

Walker wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:59 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:03 pm No thing can ever be eternal.
That means the present ain't a thang.
Thangs, thongs or whatever things are is irrelevant.


All there is is consciousness, the sense that "I am". Whatever rises within consciousness is no different from consciousness itself and to make something of it is totally pointless. Reality is a zero sum game for no one.

illusion.

Knowledge is a mere remedy to cure the disease of ignorance, and once ignorance has vanished, knowledge no longer has any real existence. "Within Reality there is neither knowledge nor ignorance. When "I" do not exist, when "I" am not, He only is and that is Reality, that is Self without self."


God is just another word for consciousness or every thing and no thing. In other words, ultimately all knowledge is a made up story, knowledge is a fable. A claim without a claimer.
User avatar
Harbal
Posts: 9746
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:03 pm
Location: Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Harbal »

Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:39 am


All there is is consciousness, the sense that "I am". Whatever rises within consciousness is no different from consciousness itself and to make something of it is totally pointless. Reality is a zero sum game for no one.

illusion.

Knowledge is a mere remedy to cure the disease of ignorance, and once ignorance has vanished, knowledge no longer has any real existence. "Within Reality there is neither knowledge nor ignorance. When "I" do not exist, when "I" am not, He only is and that is Reality, that is Self without self."


God is just another word for consciousness or every thing and no thing. In other words, ultimately all knowledge is a made up story, knowledge is a fable. A claim without a claimer.
So once a consciousness accepts this to be the case, then what?
User avatar
Sculptor
Posts: 8634
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:32 pm

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Sculptor »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm According to the English language, “eternal” means “without beginning or end, always existing, lasting forever.

So the claim “I am the knower” is wrong - for there is absolutely no knowledge of anything existing without beginning or end…no thing lasts forever.
This does not follow

Knowledge is an illusion.
How do YOU know??
Therefore all meaning and point is born of what is fundamentally totally meaningless and pointless.
Does not follow again.
User avatar
RCSaunders
Posts: 4704
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:42 pm
Contact:

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by RCSaunders »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm Knowledge is an illusion.
What, exactly, is it that suffers from this illusion?
User avatar
RCSaunders
Posts: 4704
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:42 pm
Contact:

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by RCSaunders »

Sculptor wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:33 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm Knowledge is an illusion.
How do YOU know??
He just has an, illusion, knowledge is an illusion, err .... something like that.
Impenitent
Posts: 4357
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:04 pm

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Impenitent »

some punk once said "use your illusion"...

-Imp
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16940
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Dontaskme »

Harbal wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:58 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:39 am


All there is is consciousness, the sense that "I am". Whatever rises within consciousness is no different from consciousness itself and to make something of it is totally pointless. Reality is a zero sum game for no one.

illusion.

Knowledge is a mere remedy to cure the disease of ignorance, and once ignorance has vanished, knowledge no longer has any real existence. "Within Reality there is neither knowledge nor ignorance. When "I" do not exist, when "I" am not, He only is and that is Reality, that is Self without self."


God is just another word for consciousness or every thing and no thing. In other words, ultimately all knowledge is a made up story, knowledge is a fable. A claim without a claimer.
So once a consciousness accepts this to be the case, then what?
Nothing.

Nothing remains.

There’s nothing to hold onto, because there’s nothing here, except empty dreams.

Discussing about this subject either happens or there’s just silence, at the moment there’s discussion which is just mindless information being processed by the nothing, appearing to be something.

Isn’t that fun.
User avatar
Harbal
Posts: 9746
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:03 pm
Location: Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Harbal »

Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:30 am
Harbal wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:58 pm

So once a consciousness accepts this to be the case, then what?
Nothing.

Nothing remains.

There’s nothing to hold onto, because there’s nothing here, except empty dreams.

Discussing about this subject either happens or there’s just silence, at the moment there’s discussion which is just mindless information being processed by the nothing, appearing to be something.

Isn’t that fun.
So what's the point in telling us? Wouldn't we be better off not knowing?
Age
Posts: 20295
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:17 am

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Age »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:52 pm CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY
spiritual existence after death of the body.
Bodies do NOT 'die'. They just change in shape and form.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:52 pm "the belief in eternal life"
There is NO 'need' to BELIEVE in what is ACTUALLY, an ALREADY PROVEN True, FACT.
Age
Posts: 20295
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:17 am

Re: Barking up the wrong tree of life

Post by Age »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm According to the English language, “eternal” means “without beginning or end, always existing, lasting forever.

So the claim “I am the knower” is wrong - for there is absolutely no knowledge of anything existing without beginning or end…no thing lasts forever.
What???

Thee Universe IS eternal, AND infinite. Therefore, thee existing Universe has NO beginning NOR ever ended. Thee Universe "lasts", or more correctly, 'exists', FOREVER.

As has ALREADY been PROVEN True, but of which, 'the knowledge of', some are just yet to be exposed to.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm Knowledge is an illusion.
Are those four words 'knowledge', or just 'ignorance'?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:38 pm Therefore all meaning and point is born of what is fundamentally totally meaningless and pointless.
Well you have CERTAINLY made what you have said and expressed here TOTALLY meaningless AND pointless.
Post Reply