Why is that?attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Sober atto doesn't care too much dealing with what drunk atto had to say.
What would sober atto say to drunk atto?
Why is that?attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Sober atto doesn't care too much dealing with what drunk atto had to say.
Well, in that case, perhaps sober atto (Jekyll) could get his computer equipped with some kind of breathalyzer apparatus that can prevent drunk atto (Mr. Hyde) from logging on to PN....attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Sober atto doesn't care too much dealing with what drunk atto had to say.
Yes, even Buddha is famous for his alleged recollection of a large number of prior human incarnations. Indeed, he is said to have recounted "...almost 554 past life stories..." - Wiki.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Since being told a few things about my previous life, I have often wondered how many lifetimes I go back - and when my soul first came into existence.
That means that in the year 1804 (a mere 217 years ago) there were at least 6 billion human souls "waiting in the wings," so to speak, for access to a human body....Wiki wrote: It took over 2 million years of human prehistory and history for the world's population to reach 1 billion [allegedly in 1804], and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion [allegedly sometime around 2012].
Love it.
They don't talk to each other, I am simply stating I don't respond to others responding to what drunk atto had to say - cos he's an arseholeLacewing wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:48 pmWhy is that?attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Sober atto doesn't care too much dealing with what drunk atto had to say.
What would sober atto say to drunk atto?
Drunk atto exists because atto has just been put through HELL for two months since Feb when he crossed a certain line that sage\God had set (since 1997) - in fact - it was the worst experience of HELL that I have had - and they told me it is my final. I use lots of alcohol to get me through it - now that reality is back to normal and I haven't heard a peep out of the for over a week - no excuse to get drunk I spose.seeds wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:21 pmWell, in that case, perhaps sober atto (Jekyll) could get his computer equipped with some kind of breathalyzer apparatus that can prevent drunk atto (Mr. Hyde) from logging on to PN....attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Sober atto doesn't care too much dealing with what drunk atto had to say.
...(Though I suppose that is a useless suggestion, seeing how by his own admission, sober atto doesn't seem to even care about the damage that drunk atto causes.)
No, as you have stated via the quote, in 1804 1 billion people existed. 200 years later 7 billion people - fine.seeds wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:21 pmYes, even Buddha is famous for his alleged recollection of a large number of prior human incarnations. Indeed, he is said to have recounted "...almost 554 past life stories..." - Wiki.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Since being told a few things about my previous life, I have often wondered how many lifetimes I go back - and when my soul first came into existence.
With that in mind, the following point might be a little difficult to visualize, but I suggest that one of the main problems with reincarnation is that most of its proponents (again, even the Buddha) usually proclaim (or assume) that very little time elapses between their deaths and rebirths into new human bodies on earth.
However, according to Wiki [bracketed interjections mine]...
That means that in the year 1804 (a mere 217 years ago) there were at least 6 billion human souls "waiting in the wings," so to speak, for access to a human body....Wiki wrote: It took over 2 million years of human prehistory and history for the world's population to reach 1 billion [allegedly in 1804], and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion [allegedly sometime around 2012].
Dunno, I am only going by what the sage told me in Nov 2005 - the night he introduced himself - and indeed - what I know of the capability with the attributes of this God entity.seeds wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:21 pm...(And that isn't even taking into account the potential doubling of the human population that could possibly take place within the next hundred years.)
So the question is, why would you, or the Buddha, or anyone else be allowed to hog-up bodies in a huge number of consecutively occurring births when so many other souls need one in order to advance in their spiritual status?
Well, one of the logical ways to get around that problem is to realize that vast numbers of un-incarnate souls aren't actually "waiting in the wings" for a body to become available, but are in fact newly formed when a human is born.
Again, reincarnation is a very problematic (if not utterly false) concept.
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Ah... pretend it isn't there, while pretending others things are there.attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:24 amThey don't talk to each other, I am simply stating I don't respond to others responding to what drunk atto had to say - cos he's an arseholeLacewing wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:48 pmWhy is that?attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:42 am Sober atto doesn't care too much dealing with what drunk atto had to say.
What would sober atto say to drunk atto?
seeds wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:56 pmI'm not sure how this conversation morphed into a debate about masks (oh wait,...it's because of Walker), but my initial use of the KKK images, especially this one...Belinda wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:34 pm It is interesting to note that purely symbolic face coverings might make some slight difference to the number of viruses one breathes into the surrounding air. However one presumes the President wears a medical grade face mask whereas the religious women and the KluKluxKlan men are unconcerned about hygienic masks.
...was to demonstrate that it is usually the circumstances of our birth that functions as one of the primary means by which ideological "mindsets" (be they religious or something else) are perpetuated.
Belinda, what teachers are you referring to?
That's interesting, Lacewing, and you are now entering into a territory of speculative ideas that I love to think about and talk about.
Sounds fun!
I tend to think in terms of organic connections, rather than machine-like ones. I'll try to describe more about that below.
I have had one of those. It doesn't pester me much anymore. Maybe because I do tend to live in the moment, and I feel a lot of love/acceptance/gratitude most of the time. Maybe that in combination with the way my philosophy and perspectives have evolved to make sense of things. I see: it's all perfect as it is.
When I heard this idea years ago, of each person being a collection of souls, it somehow seemed to make sense. But I haven't thought a whole lot about it, rather, I've just noticed some things from time to time. In myself, I've seen a lot of different capability... so many things (for example, angel, devil, peacemaker, warrior, business woman, hippy, sharing partner, independent trailblazer, etc.). It's like a whole tribe aligned on the same path!seeds wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:50 pm...when I close my eyes I can only sense the presence of what seems to be a singular "I am-ness" that I call "me."
Furthermore, when I look within, I find myself in control of a matrix of mental imaging energy that I can grasp with my will and shape into absolutely anything I desire.
So the question is, would these "other souls" (whose presence I have no awareness of) have the same degree of control over the same matrix of mental imaging energy to where they could create something that is independent of my awareness?...
...Or...
...Would this collective of souls simply (and simultaneously) see and experience the exact same thing appearing before our collective (yet individual) perspectives (such as simultaneously experiencing the exact same thought of an apple, or the exact same dream, or the exact same impulse to raise an arm to scratch an itch, etc., etc.)?
I guess I just think of it as energy. I don't think anything is unchanging, not even a soul. So I don't have this idea that it's a static thing. I do think energy can affect things, and be experienced.
That's a good analogy, henry. I like that.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:00 amMy two cents...
Information, software, distinct from hardware.
Man, I reckon, is a composite being: spirit or soul and body; software & hardware; information and substance: two distinctly different things, each utterly dependent on the other.
"I'm trying to think, but nothin' happens" - Curly Howard