Not at all, actually.
But answer the question: does an opinion turn into a "lie" because the opinion changed, or because it "turned out" not to conform the reality, to the truth?
Not at all, actually.
Answered: Because it "turned out" not to conform the reality, to the truth.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:20 pm
does an opinion turn into a "lie" because the opinion changed, or because it "turned out" not to conform the reality, to the truth?
Thank you.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:07 amAnswered: Because it "turned out" not to conform the reality, to the truth.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:20 pm
does an opinion turn into a "lie" because the opinion changed, or because it "turned out" not to conform the reality, to the truth?
The indicators are difference, one thing is true, the other thing is not true.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:43 pm
I guess the next question would be, "How do you know when something has "turned out" not to conform to the reality, to the truth?" In other words, what are the indicators you notice that show you that that has happened?
Great. But "difference" between WHAT and WHAT? A "difference" implies the existence of two things: in this case, an "opinion" and "reality." Unless you have both, there is no such thing as a "difference."Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:53 pmThe indicators are difference, one thing is true, the other thing is not true.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:43 pm
I guess the next question would be, "How do you know when something has "turned out" not to conform to the reality, to the truth?" In other words, what are the indicators you notice that show you that that has happened?
Reality doesn't have an opinion. Opinions are appearances within reality, opinions have no actual reality. They only appear to have.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pmGreat. But "difference" between WHAT and WHAT? A "difference" implies the existence of two things: in this case, an "opinion" and "reality." Unless you have both, there is no such thing as a "difference."Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:53 pmThe indicators are difference, one thing is true, the other thing is not true.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:43 pm
I guess the next question would be, "How do you know when something has "turned out" not to conform to the reality, to the truth?" In other words, what are the indicators you notice that show you that that has happened?
Dualism is the dream, only the dream is known.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:32 pmTwo things again: "appearances" and "reality." You're a dualist.
Two things again: "dream" and "reality."
There is no objective reality. Except in the dream of separation, duality. The you can only happen in duality, where the knower is inseparable from known, and the known is inseparable from the knower.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:39 pmTwo things again: "dream" and "reality."Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:35 pmDualism is the dream, only the dream is known.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:32 pm
Two things again: "appearances" and "reality." You're a dualist.
If there's no "reality," there's no meaning in the word "dream." You may as well write, "dualism is a mxtplx."
Sorry, DAM: just not interested.
Either of you... tell us some more about the characters of Christians that non-Christians don’t have.