Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 am
There is no utopian reality for humans or animals ..EVER
Age wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:00 am
And, what are you basing this on EXACTLY, other than past experiences?
Yep, it's based on experience, I've witnessed both bad and good. Never just a bad world, or a good world, always both in a sort of balanced kind of way.
Age wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:47 pmWhat 'you', an individual human being, class as 'good' nor 'bad' has no bearing on what i was pointing out here, which was; How can 'you', an individual, accurately base what will, or will not happen, in the future, for the WHOLE of humankind, only on what has happened in your own, very short, past experiences alone?
I've already explained, go back through the whole conversation and try to LISTEN more carefully, and you will see, rather than just keep stating the well thought out responses to you have no bearing on what you were pointing to, when in actual fact they do, except you seem to show such an annoying incapability of being able to decipher any bearings when they are clearly presented to you..
Some here are suggesting that 'you', "yourself", could do with following your own advice.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
We cannot know the future, we can only project one, which will never represent the present moment, because only what's happening in the present moment can be known. You've even made a projection into the future yourself, when you stated that every person when they know their true self is capable of living in peace and harmony as one.
The point is, that projection you made is not happening now, so the suggestion made by you Age, informs a future time, and that future time must be a belief you have now that there is possibly a future time when people will live in peace and harmony as a collective one.
That's a typical BELIEF AND ASSUMPTION made now.
But this is NOT an ASSUMPTION NOR a BELIEF.
Because I KNOW what thee True Self is, then I also KNOW what is possible and thus what can happen when thy True Self is KNOWN, by 'you', human beings.
Also, did you NOT YET notice what I said, which was just a question, asked for clarification here?
If you just answered the question OPENLY and Honestly, then you may also notice the difference between what I have said about the future from what you have said. You might also then be able to decipher the difference.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:29 am
That's just the way nature has programmed it to be.
Age wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:47 pmOkay.
You made a future projection, so you must have a belief in this future projection to be possible.
This is NOT necessarily true AT ALL.
I have MANY views, and NONE of them 'have to be' a BELIEF, AT ALL.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
You have claimed many times that you have no beliefs.
And I am still claiming this.
See, whenever any person 'tries to' inform 'me' or "others" of what the actual thinking is that is going on within this head, and that person is WRONG, then I will just inform them of this.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
So that makes you a liar.
LOL. So, there is a BELIEF within that head, and the pursuing thinking is;
that is the end of this matter.
Look, you are FREE to BELIEVE whatever you like, but just be forewarned your BELIEFS are NOT necessarily true at all. Unless, OF COURSE, you can PROVE otherwise.
If you can PROVE what you CLAIM here, then feel completely FREE to go ahead and PROVE it.
Until then what remains will just be your own unsubstantiated and unsupported BELIEF/S.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
You couldn't have made the future projection had you not believed your assumption of what you DID state was possible.
Yes I CAN.
I CAN do this by the very simple measure of KNOWING. See, I CAN KNOW some 'thing', without having to necessarily BELIEVE it.
I can just KNOW some things, without BELIEVING them. Just like I can THINK some things, without BELIEVING them also.
In fact, I neither BELIEVE nor DISBELIEVE ANY thing.
I also do not like to ASSUME ANY thing as well.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
No one can know the future, so you must have been making an assumption that you believe humans are capable of living in peace and harmony collectively once they have come into the awareness of their true-self and or the actual truth itself.
If some thing has ALREADY BEEN DONE, then one can KNOW what is possible in the future.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
Age wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:00 am
'you' are ABSOLUTELY FREE to BELIEVE ANY thing you like, and to SEE 'things' in ANY way you like.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 amWhen a big dog chases a terrified cat into the road for there was no where else for the cat to go, which led to the cat being confronted with a big truck and subsequently ended up as a mangled squashed red pulp underneath the wheels of the truck. I am not seeing that event any other way than how it looks to me in the immediate moment. Nor am I having to stop and ask myself do I believe what has happened...I know it happened, ok. I don't have to believe it happened, nor do I have any doubt about the way it happened.
Age wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:47 pmHas this got anything to do with absolutely anything that I have actually said and written here so far?
If yes, then what EXACTLY?
Work it out for yourself, and stop being lazy.
Are you capable of CLARIFYING your own words.
If yes, then I will WAIT.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
It is so annoying that you never seem to be able to understand what is being exchanged in almost every conversation you have with other people on this forum.
And what I find Truly humorous is when people say things, which I then ask them to back up and support, to clarify, and/or to elaborate on, and they completely and utterly FAIL to do so.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:28 am
You seem to live in a constant state of confusion instead of thinking more deeply with more diligence and disernment into how other people respond to you.
LOL
If only you ALREADY KNEW thee ACTUAL Truth here.
And, when and if you do, then you will SEE just how funny and humorous this statement of yours is here.