Are you asking whether 'God" has a plan, or humans?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 amThat's the problem - if all events that happen are God's plan, like the God believers pretend to make claim to, then we humans just like other sentient animals never did have free will or choice to plan anything.VVilliam wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:14 amIf you are referring to the Christian idea of God, I would say 'yes'.
But what plan are you referring to? An overall plan or a specific plan for a specific thing?
Either way, I am sure "God" has a "Plan".
If the plan is specific to this physical universe, I would say the God will just let it eventually turn itself into a cleaver AI machine...those seem to be the algorithms which are running its unfolding...
We don't know that. We have no prior memories of choosing to be here, but we don't no for a fact that is the case.We didn't even choose to be here, to be born. And that's a fact for certain. None of us, not one single one of us chose to be born. No one asked to be born. Not one single one of us pre- planned to come here.
I know that serendipity and synchronicity are active ingredients in what is unfolding. It is a subjective experience [re the individuate consciousness] but it certainly points to confirmation of the idea.And for those that have been born. Can they ever know what they are doing from one moment to the next when anything could literally happen out of the blue for absolutely no reason or purpose.. it's not like the born have ever been alive before, so all they can do from a knowing knowledge context is to make it all up as they go along and hopefully learn from past mistakes. Plans don't always go to plan, so it is misleading for God believers to claim that how natural events in life unfold is always God's plan, or it's God's way, or it's God's will. . because in reality, there is no God or any other agent here on earth making any event happen, it only seems as if there is, which is a false claim.
We can clearly see that the path to the eventual replacing sentient human beings with their AI creation is traceable back into the distant past of human development.But Yes, it does apparently seem to be where life for sentient human is planning to get to. I for one, can certainly report my own observations and see a humanity speeding headlong down the AI route. But to be honest, it wouldn't be my personal plan to go there.
So I'm wondering just who exactly has the ultimate authority to grant planning permission. My gut is, there isn't one.
Our forms are perfect for the task of creating tools...devices...machines...
From this ...................................................to this
Pretty much in the blink of an eye [relative to time and space]
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