As I've said to you before, the dreamer, dream and dreaming are one. The light/ or consciousness or awareness that knows a nightly dream is the same knowing that knows the waking dream.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:33 pm As I say, I would totally get this objection if you believed there were "sentient creatures" who actually "suffered." But you say that there is only your own consciousness, which is dreaming.
Consequently, I can't see what your objection is: tell your consciousness not to "dream" that, I guess.
The absurd notion of all is ONE, and the many are the one, makes no coherent sense to you IC ..but it makes sense to me...perfect sense actually.
You see, in knowledge, in knowing you are aware you are a sentient organism, you the dreamer have to be lucid within your own dream to know you are dreaming. That's what is meant by the capacity to know something, you know pain is bad, and pleasure is good..when the dreamer becomes aware of itself in it's own dreaming, the dreamer enters the realm of knowledge, the dreamer becomes aware of itself as a character with feeling, and emotions and intelligence.
Life in general, prior to any concept imposed upon it, is a non-conceptual phenomena. Life is not the carrier of a concept. A concept is the carrier of life within the known dream that appears as a live sentient human character with a life.
The concept that I exist as a character, exists only within the dream as a belief where dreamer is aware it is dreaming. So going back to the dreamer, who becomes conscious of it's own consciousness, it is that one who knows the difference between pain and pleasure and can decide whether pain is worth the experience, an experience that is real only insofar as the dreamer is real.
So in fact, collectively, we are dreaming ourselves alive, and if we can do that, then we can stop doing it any time we want. But if the need for this dreamt character is there, then that need will be difficult to ignore. And so the pain and suffering will continue, and it's consciousness alone that is choosing to need it.
Now, prior to knowledge, or concept. Life has no need, it just is, it's not needing to be, it's just being. Nothing really needs to be, so any need is just an artificially imposed concept, it's a pseudo construct. In other words, humans do not need a God to be, no more than a bee needs a God to be. A bee is just pure being. A bee needs a flower to gather pollen to make honey, but all this is just functioning without a concept informing it to do so, it's just a natural phenomena. The bees are not setting up churches inside their hives praying for a good pollen season.
Anyways, you probably think this is all incoherent too, no matter.
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