gaffo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:50 am
DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:01 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm
God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
freewill is a dilution in the case of choosing God. those that reject God's revelation of presence (Holy Spirit) is an blasphemy and unforgivable according to the NT,
nope. your reference is not to NT but Saul's letter, and ihat offense si to the Holy Ghost (rejecting) not pr rejecting God YHWH or his son Jesus.
sso Saul (not the NT) - Saul, thought the rejection of YHWH and/or Christ was forgivable, but not that of rejecting the HG.
for whatever reason, no clue on that - welcome coucil on this matter.
according to Jesus God is a Spirit, therefore the Holy Spirit is the presence of God as described elsewhere, as in indwell and one is a temple hence a dwelling place of the presence of God in the case of the born again. so the rejection of God's presence is the rejection of the Holy Spirit. you know 2+2 =4
also Saul, now Paul the Apostle to the gentiles, his writings are officially included as a part of the NT
DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:01 pm
the same NT also mentions vessels made unto honor and dishonor. the reason the devil can not be redeemed is he has seen God and rejects.
but in biblical context God chooses, no one receives revelation of God's presence unless He chooses to do so. hence the experience of revelation is to know. so on and so forth.
but if you want to call the choice of doing your own thing and not a nations or a groups thing whereas nether have anything to do with God go ahead.
Belial know God in the OT while erving him, only latter became YHWH's enemy.
Balaam served Balak the son of Zippor and the princes of Moab, not the Lord God of Israel. Balaam was a diviner of which the Lord used for the sake and faith of the children of Israel.
the Lord God tells Satan what to do, or what he may do, as in the book of Job for example, doesn't mean there's a relationship of a heavenly nature, does it?