What the word 'sin' here has NOT EVEN YET been 'stipulated', 'agreed upon', and 'accepted', let alone what you have CLAIMED being agreed upon and accepted as well. So, JUMPING to the "conclusion" that you have here is COMPLETELY PRESUMPTIVE of 'you'.VVilliam wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:44 pmI am not assuming anything. I have showed how the bullet points about the supposed event] clearly indicate that it was Adam, not Eve, who sinned first.
Also do NOT forget that they ARE only 'your' bullet points ALONE, which could OBVIOUSLY have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to do with the INTENDED MEANING behind the 'writer's intention.
What was the purpose of this thread?
If the purpose of this thread, or 'yours', was just so you show your CLAIM that it was "adam" that first 'sinned' (whatever that word actually means to you in this thread), then, ONCE MORE, What was the purpose of you just showing what you BELIEVE here is the case.
That is OBVIOUSLY 'clearly NOT the case', from your perspective ALONE here.
Also, so what if SOME human beings, called by ANY name, BELIEVE that 'sin' (whatever that word actually means to you or them] " entered the, so called, "world" " through "eve", or "adam"? What bearing would that make on ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing'?
Also, LOL "the 'story' [such as 'it' is]".
You have ABSOLUTELY NO idea NOR clue what the 'story' ACTUALLY IS, (or more correctly ACTUALLY WAS). You ONLY have an INTERPRETED VERSION of the 'story' [such as 'it' WAS]. And, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to suggest that YOUR VERSION of the 'story' is even remotely CLOSE to the 'original' 'story'. Which brings us back, by the way, to what the 'original' INTENDED PURPOSE and 'original' True MEANING BEHIND the 'original' INTENDED MESSAGE in THAT 'story', which is in relation to the 'original' 'sin', if one MUST KNOW.
How could 'you' ever be 'mistaken' in how you LOOK AT and SEE 'things'? Especially in regards to what is, essentially, just a 'story', which, by the way, has OBVIOUSLY been CHANGED an unknown amount of times anyway?
Also, I am asking 'you' WHAT IS 'your' purpose in starting a thread about HOW 'you' BELIEVE "adam" 'sin' first?
That you BELIEVE you have some 'evidence' that this is TRUE is of NO importance YET. I am just trying to ascertain WHY you started this thread.
We can LOOK AT, and DISCUSS, your YET UNPROVEN, so called, "evidence" later on. But first things FIRST. What is the ACTUAL PURPOSE for this thread, of YOURS here?
SEE, when writers write some 'thing', there is an 'intention' or 'purpose' behind what they write. So, what is YOUR 'intention' or 'purpose' behind this thread that you started?